FEHRMANN GRUPPE TIGER 05

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Postby HERMAN BIX » Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:09 pm

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Postby SteelBird » Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:30 am

I'm from Cambodia. one of the countries located in Southeast Asia. The link you provided seems to be from Australia. Shipping fee would be ridiculously expensive. It seems to cost something like US$30 for such small thing. I give up!

However, thanks for your kind help. We will do it if I can find it in some day.
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Postby philipat » Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:27 am

SteelBird wrote:I'm from Cambodia. one of the countries located in Southeast Asia. The link you provided seems to be from Australia. Shipping fee would be ridiculously expensive. It seems to cost something like US$30 for such small thing. I give up!

However, thanks for your kind help. We will do it if I can find it in some day.


Try searching aliexpress. Sometimes you can find Taigen and Heng Long parts there.

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Postby HERMAN BIX » Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:00 pm

SteelBird wrote:I'm from Cambodia. one of the countries located in Southeast Asia. The link you provided seems to be from Australia. Shipping fee would be ridiculously expensive. It seems to cost something like US$30 for such small thing. I give up!

However, thanks for your kind help. We will do it if I can find it in some day.


The things are $AUD12..............I would be amazed if it cost $USD30 to get it to Cambodia in postage !
Tell ya what, I will take a set I have to a post office next week(its a public holiday here Monday) and price it up.
PM me your address so I can get the cost accurate.
If its realistic, I can get you a set & send them on, if not, then perhaps an alternative supplier ;)
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Postby SteelBird » Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:28 am

HERMAN BIX wrote:
SteelBird wrote:I'm from Cambodia. one of the countries located in Southeast Asia. The link you provided seems to be from Australia. Shipping fee would be ridiculously expensive. It seems to cost something like US$30 for such small thing. I give up!

However, thanks for your kind help. We will do it if I can find it in some day.


The things are $AUD12..............I would be amazed if it cost $USD30 to get it to Cambodia in postage !
Tell ya what, I will take a set I have to a post office next week(its a public holiday here Monday) and price it up.
PM me your address so I can get the cost accurate.
If its realistic, I can get you a set & send them on, if not, then perhaps an alternative supplier ;)

Have you got my PM about my address?
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:48 am

Yes mate I will sort a set and price up post.
Got a bit on, but I will advise by weeks end.
You shall have your links , oh yes, you shall !!
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:04 pm

Here we go again. Electronics :problem:
The new Taigen stuff is not a plug & play for old H/L tanks.
Yeah, "no S%$$#T Sherlock" you say ! :/
The set is sold to retrofit into Taigen tanks, not old H/L ones.
I will need a new 8 pin cable and the socket to match from Taigen.
Any direction on a supplier for these greatly appreciated.
Sounds good enough, seems to otherwise be ok.
Just have not elevation, gun or recoil control.
Oh, and first test of a brand new smoker..............failed to smoke :/

Ohhhh well, I do insist on creating Frankenstein's...........
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Postby philipat » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:51 am

Have you tried aliexpress.com? They seem to be really good for parts for Taigen and HL. Or, you could try rctank.de. taigentanks.com is a US vendor that could help.

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Postby HERMAN BIX » Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:09 pm

Got stuff coming.................will test and advise.
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:48 am

Stuff not here yet, but got plenty of guidance.
Any H/L conversion to this system will need the correct little bits to make it work, but UI still believe this way is going to be easier and get a better result than trying to graft the latest H/L system into an old tank.
Mr Ozarmour is helping out with advice & hardware, so lets see how it goes.
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Postby philipat » Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:13 pm

So, how are they different? Are you using a Taigen V3 or V2?

When I did my PzIV the Taigen V2 was an easy plug-n-play with the HL. It used the same plugs and all. But, I have no experience with the V3.

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Postby HERMAN BIX » Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:02 am

Im using V3. There is no difference apart from the track recoil disable switch.
I do not have the compatible 8 pin cable and the hull connection plug to suit this.
I have a V2 set here as well and its got a different cable set up in it.
Im certain once the plug & cable arrives I will be in business.
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Postby philipat » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:02 am

HERMAN BIX wrote:Im using V3. There is no difference apart from the track recoil disable switch.
I do not have the compatible 8 pin cable and the hull connection plug to suit this.
I have a V2 set here as well and its got a different cable set up in it.
Im certain once the plug & cable arrives I will be in business.


Cool. I didn't realize the 8-pin cable was different.

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Postby HERMAN BIX » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:12 am

The missing link arrived today.
Huge thanks to Mr Ozarmour for his advice, information and support of the bits I needed. He was not obliged nor responsible for the issues Im having, but he sure has been instrumental in getting it sorted. Theres one for the "recommended Vendors" section for sure. :clap:
A Taigen upper hull plug, and correct cable.
Also, an H/L 8-3-3-2 upper hull plug just in case.
The Taigen one worked first go after a test run.
I soldered the rotation into the right spot onto the plug board using a tail cable with a female plug to accept the male rotation cable plug.Makes any rotation unit swap over easier.
I did try the H/L 8-3-3-2 version(same as what I had) & cable, and the result was the same failure.
Cyclic Elevation only, no rotation, no fire control.
Now with the Taigen plug and cable, I have correct control.
The flasher unit also plays a vital part in making the Taigen system function.
Other boards do not require the flash & plugs to make the system work, but the Taigen system relies on all the functions being connected to operate properly.

So as of now, all I need to do is get the micro switch in a better spot to ensure the right timing of the gun sounds & Im done for the electronics muck-around.
Then I can secure the hull halves, and complete the finishing on the outside.
Close now, real close. :/

No pics of this as in all honesty it looks like a cross between a page from Panzer Wrecks and a noodle factory explosion :{ :shh:
Once I get the micro switch sorted and the internals cleaned up, I will put a pic up.
BUT, lesson here is for those of you that want to use V3 Taigen electronics in older(rx18 that is) H/L tanks, you will need the matching Taigen upper hull plug, and the matching 8 pin cable.
This of course will also depend on the recoil system-if used- so as to ensure the recoil/elevation unit operates correctly.

Ok, I'm into the micro switch now.......................
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:17 pm

Micro switch fitted to OEM spot............check
Recoil activation functions...................check
Gunfire sound & flash function.............check
Making all that work off the stick..........fail

The slide on the recoil /elevation unit does not go back far enough for the gusset on the slide to tag the microswitch and close the loop.
Simple enough problem once identified, but the barrel is somehow sticking inside the mantlet and not allowing enough travel.
I have used high density foam to pack around the mantlet pivot and assembly to try to reduce 'bounce' during normal tank travel and I reckon thats a part cause of some unseen interference to the barrel action.
More work to do yet before I can close the hull. :/

At least now its mechanical not electronic so I can overcome it.
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:53 pm

WD40..........THERE'S ALWAYS ANOTHER USE" !!!

Sprayed a bit in the necessary moving bits and voila.................simple solution in the end.The slide travels far enough to trip the microswitch and enable the flash & gunfire function.

As of just now, the hull is sealed up tight, full test done of the turret in every position, tests done of the barrel in every elevation/depression, everything works.
Geartrain greased.
Now I can get this done.

Thanks to Mr Ozarmour for the Taigen documents and necessary guidance to help get the new electronics over the line.
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Postby philipat » Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:16 am

Gonna do a video?

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Postby HERMAN BIX » Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:50 am

Could do, would need to figure that out.
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Postby philipat » Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:12 am

:thumbup:

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Postby HERMAN BIX » Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:33 pm

Almost done now.
Ran a full battery through it on a test run.
Have a bit of adjusting to do on the left track, but it ran without fault.
I've added a tow cable in the ready use position, just need to blend the pigment on as required to get the joints looking right.
Perhaps a steel helmet, but other than those, its done.
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