XRAD'S JAGDTIGER

[caddyshack]

Coming togeather well. Keep up the good work.

[GMV]

Sweet!

[xrad]

Thanks Guys! I could not tell from pics if 4 or 6 inside exhaust cover bolts were used. I assumed 6 by the angle of the plates. Once painted, it will be hard to see this area anyway......

[xrad]

A little more work done...

Milliput for cracks. Some more hull work to do, then primer.....

wire rings for grills are a little prominent, I may redo...

[Saxondog]

Xrad, These are the pictures from encyclopaedia of German Armor,The size of the Photo is about the largest I can post clearly,if you want a larger view that is possible using other software not supported by the forum due to the size restrictions of photos. Maybe these will be of use as the different tracks and sprockets are used,the exhaust in the top right hand picture seems unique?

[mustclime]

I was lookingon you tube and found a couple things that could help....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvn9dbj8qf4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=ygb ... =endscreen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aInlsZ2g ... re=related

this one is really interesting....its a p jt...missing wheels nd zimmerit on the fenders...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVw0xqrS ... re=related

[xrad]

Thanks for the help Guys!

I have seen all this footage and the pics above. Sax, those are transport tracks on the Porsche suspension hull, and the others have early tracks. The one in front of the building has the 2-link tracks (i have other angles of same tank) I have about 300 JT pics in my files here and at work, but none show single links w/18tooth drivers. The real give-away is look at the citadel at the hanging tracks and the 'track hangers' . Some very late king tiger turrets have six pairs of track hangers made for the single links. You can see this in some of the 'factory' shots by the Allies.

It is not a problem for me, I build what I like anyway. I already gave this some late casting numbers on the mantlet(87). So maybe my tank is one of the last ones assembled and rushed out of the factory....

You know in the books when authors say "maybe 70-80 JT's built.?.?.?"

My tank is number 87.......

cheers

[sassgrunt]

In the pictures on the page that Saxondog posted, the top and bottom pictures show the same vehicle (said to be hull number 305003) during trials running on Kgs 64/640/130 tracks from the Elefant. I always found that interesting, because the four spare links on the superstructure side are the modified (inner guide tooth removed) King Tiger type that were used on all the Porsche suspension Jagdtigers. Other books show views of this same vehicle from the left side and firectly from the rear, which has a much better view of the track. No idea why they went this route (I always thought it looked kind of strange), but maybe they were tryiing to find another option from having to modify the stock King Tiger track. The upper exhaust pipes are surrounded by a metal guard that I think was also on the very first King Tigers with the 'Porsche' turret. Intersting bit of trivia, for what were very rare vehicles, anyway.

[xrad]

Porsche tested diferent tracks on their suspension due to binding and slow top speed during the trials. Guide horns cut off of 2 link track(not elefant track as it only has one central guide horn) due to binding. The problem appears that the porsche two wheel set-up had to be staggered on the JT, while they are 'inline' on the elefant. Apparently, things did not line up satisfactorily with the 'two -link' KT tracks...

I think you are right Sass, those are elefant tracks, not transport. In any case, too narrow for the weight...

[sassgrunt]

Xrad, it's funny that you mentioned the staggered vs in-line wheels. If I have it right, the Elefant has two pairs of side-by-side roadwheels on each bogie unit; each straddling a center guide tooth of the track. But the Porsche-suspension Jagdtiger has two single roadwheels (offset from each other) - one runs on the outside of a track guide tooth, and the other one runs on the inside of it. The regular KT track has two guide teeth, and the inner tooth didn't get used by the roadwheels at all; but it DID cause interference with the suspension unit itself, which is why they cut it off.

I've been looking at this subject because I came up with this 'bright idea' that I could adapt suspension units from the Hooben Elefant to make a Jagdtiger with the Porsche suspension. It is proving to be a difficult and expensive proposition, and figuring out the roadwheel offset is just one of the problems. Also, the roadwheels between the Elefant and Jagdtiger don't really look alike; although I started it thinking that they did.