Mackem wrote: Well that means my book is wrong then, oh, and so is this web site,
http://www.battlefield.ru/index.php?Itemid=50&id=49&lang=en&option=com_content&task=view
and this one,
http://www.armchairgeneral.com/rkkaww2/galleries/IS/IS_1_img.htm
mmmmmmmmmmmmmm............
John
in the first link it is correctly id as a kv-85
in the second link that is a kv1s85 they are 2 differant turrets
the kv1s85 was the experimental unit and the kv85 was the production unit