Leopard tanks take a pounding in Syria

[AlwynTurner]

According to the daily mail, the Turkish Leopard tanks aint doing so well in Syria
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... Syria.html

Should have bought Challies! The Germans are trying to sell us some of their surplus !!

Alwyn

[43rdRecceReg]

Those look like earlier marks of leopard 2, as the additional turret armour is missing. These are 2A4s, and the latest is, I believe the 2A7. Even if the Leopard were equipped with British Chobham Armour, like the Abrams, it'd still be destroyed easily by mines: it's a big weakness of modern tanks and AFVs.
Can't say I'm a big fan of the Turks, and Herr Erdogan. Pity it was a Leopard that got one up it, and not the new great Dictator. Not to slip into politics, but the old saying my enemy's enemy is my friend doesn't hold true here. The Kurds are fighting Isis- the enemy of Turkey (even though they- the Turks- have funded Isis..allegedly). Notionally, Isis is also the enemy of Turkey, and yet the Turks are fighting the Kurds ..
Good luck with that then. Just don't bring the problem over here...

[wibblywobbly]

But they probably passed the emissions test!

[43rdRecceReg]

But they probably passed the emissions test!

You couldn't make it up!...But they did

[rochesb]

They tested them on monkeys first......

[rochesb]

They tested them on monkeys first......

must be an echo ....... I blame the Edge browser & Microsoft

[lmcq11]

I do not think the Abrams of the Iraqi army are invincible either.

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[c.rainford73]

Here's an interesting article about the fate of the Abrams in Iraqi army service

Mostly opinion, but interesting

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-Iraqi- ... ds-of-ISIS

[walter]

The performance and competence of the tank crew in combat would be very important.

[Roboticus_Prime]

The Iraqi Abrams' are the export version. They are less armored and don't have the fancy sensors the US versions do. Still, one of my favorite stories is of the 'Beast'. An Iraqi M1A1 that fought ISIL in the city of Hit so well, that the US advisors thought it was the act of multiple tanks. It drove all over the city on a rampage against ISIL positions and IED's. That was a good crew.