Question about HL M1A2, barrel recoil and track jolt

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Hi Michael,

I think I am about to figure this out with your assistance. The link explained very well and I understand how to adapt to servo turret rotation and I think the gun elevation is pretty straight forward as well.

I understand the module which used to be built into the RC Xmitter with interchangeable crystals now it is a separate piece inclusive of crystal.

Looking on the RCTA site at the "Turnigy 9XR PRO Tank Edition with Turnigy Module & 8CH Receiver". Would you know what makes it a "Tank Edition"? I have found the R/T set other places for a little less but if the "Tank Edition" is better suited for RC Tanks then perhaps I would be better off spending the additional monies. Also I see many listed as "Mode 2" throttle on left....sounds more like aircraft/car setup. Is throttle on the right what makes it a "Tank Edition"?

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Hey Barry,

The "Tank Edition" basically referred to the fact that the radio is flashed with the latest ER9X firmware (I think it is still Anzio but Kevin from RCTA will have to tell you) and this is what I was referring to before as tank friendly menu. If you check out this thread I have a screen shot of the radio and you can see that instead of ELE/RUD/AIL and all the flyboy terms, you will see STR-Steering, ENG-Engine, CAN-Cannon etc. I mean it is all cosmetic, but it makes things a little easier and neater.

viewtopic.php?f=195&t=14506

The big thing for me about buying from RCTA is that he sells it RTR. Backlit, Er9X firmware already flash, both sticks are self centered which is similar to the Heng Long transmitter that the tank guys are used to. If you buy heli radio you will only get one self centered and you would have to get another gimble to make the other one self-centered as well.

What mode you want to set-up is up to you, but mode 2 with throttle on the right and self center is just the same set-up as Heng Long, that's all. Clark site assummed you would set-up the same way so everything is consistent that way. I have seen tanker use left throttle and even non self center stick (In fact, The new Mato radio which is a HobbyKing equivalent does not have self center throttle either). You just have to get use to it and make sure your sticks are centered before powering on the tank (Just like flyers need to make sure throttle is down when powering everything up).

If you look at the default stick set-up on the Clark site, you will see that it assumes both stick self centered, right throttle and left stick is your multi function control which also needs to be centered.

Lastly, I am not familiar with other radios but I am certain you can do the same, I have mapped the non directional control (i.e. engine, cannon, MG, lights etc) off the two sticks and onto the buttoms on the radio via the mixer on the 9XR.

Edit...... Oops just check Clark site and it is right throttle. No matter, I guess they switched it around........

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Michael,

Will I still need an ATRC using the Clark or other similar control board?

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Barry,

No you don't need ATRC anymore. All after market upgrade will allow you to turn hull/track recoil on/off or at different level of settings. Clark has 16 levels for example.

ATRC is really only for Heng Long/Taigen stock electronics, or the Mako board which still needs stock electronics like the RX-18.

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Thanks Michael,

That is what I thought but wanted to confirm.

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Hi Guys,

??? Using the TK22 and servo controlled elevation; is a control like the "SIRVOE Board" that RCTA sells needed to maintain "last" elevation position after input returns to neutral?

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Barry, if you use the servo elevation control on the Clark board, it will return to neutral position because the stick is self centered. If you use an extra channel on the receiver to do the elevation (not using Clark's servo elevation), it will be the same if it is mapped to the stick. However, if you use a pot control for the elevation, then you would be able to maintain last position off your servo.

This is one of the reason why I don't use the Clark servo elevation control. BTW, this is also an interesting way of doing servo rotation (using pot control).
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Reading about programming the TK22. As I am not building an IR Combat tank; do I have to have an IR Sensor as used on an IR tank as well as the Programming Cable. Also will any Sony TV Remote work...I have several.

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Barry, you will need the program cable from Clark or a Heng Long apple to do the programming unfortunately. You don't need both. The programming cable has a built-in IR sensor. One or the other would do. If you tank is not IR you won't have the base for the sensor so you are better off with the programming cable instead.

For the basic programming the Sony remote should do. I would try that first before buying the one from Clark.
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Michael,

That is what I thought as far as the "programming cable" was is concerned but again wanted to verify. I was uncertain about the Sony remote but I have been buying Sony TVs for years and for the most part the functions have not changed much.

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