Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A"

User avatar
tomhugill
Captain
Posts: 4880
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:21 am

Re: Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A"

Post by tomhugill »

So as I sent Michael an f across the pond it's only fair puns end this over to me when your done....ta! ;)

In all seriousness you're building something awesome, I've got one of these planned so I'll be using your build as a blueprint.
User avatar
Bogeyman
Corporal
Posts: 473
Joined: Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:31 pm
Location: Bristol UK

Re: Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A"

Post by Bogeyman »

Hi,

Amazing work, loving this build, can't wait to see this done.

John
User avatar
dgsselkirk
Warrant Officer 1st Class
Posts: 1508
Joined: Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:57 am
Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
Contact:

Re: Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A"

Post by dgsselkirk »

Thanks Tom, thanks John, I have learned a lot on this site and if my so called " skills" can help someone else with ideas to than all the better! :D

Got a little more done. One of the issues I had when I cut the rear panels out was I basically destroyed the vertical lines of molded countersunk bolts so I knew at some point I was going to have to fix this. So first I filled in the old ones with putty and sanded them off. I also filled in the rear lift hooks holes as they are a little out of position on the deck and will be re-located. Next I drew a line up the hull and marked off where the bolts should be. I then drilled .8mm holes right down through except where the holes are on the aluminum strut. Those I drilled as deep as possible. Next the simulate the countersunk holes I use a 2mm bit and gave it 2 and a 1/2 gentle rotations. cleaned the holes out and put in some more of the .8mm brass bolts I had with some super glue on the bottom of them to lock them in. Gently pushed them into the holes with an xacto knife and set them at the right depth. They are really close to the same size and once primed and painted I think they should blend right in nicely...
Panther A 143.jpg
Panther A 143.jpg (35.86 KiB) Viewed 4120 times
Panther A 144.jpg
Panther A 144.jpg (35.86 KiB) Viewed 4120 times
Panther A 145.jpg
Panther A 145.jpg (44.91 KiB) Viewed 4120 times
Panther A 146.jpg
Panther A 146.jpg (44.06 KiB) Viewed 4120 times
Next, I wanted to open the rear engine hatch so I can locate my on/off and smoke switch. so proceeded to cut this out using small drill holes for the corners and heated up an xacto knife for the straight parts with a candle. I have tried little saws, wire, thread, dental floss, etc... nothing really worked for me as well as the candle knife method.
Panther A 147.jpg
Panther A 147.jpg (67.93 KiB) Viewed 4120 times
Panther A 148.jpg
Panther A 148.jpg (47.63 KiB) Viewed 4120 times
now one of the things I learned a long, long, time ago in 1/35th world is that styrene shims can be your friend when opening hatches! In this case one corner got cut off a little too square so out comes the thin, thin styrene and regular thin model glue and new corner applied. Still has to be shaped with sanding of course.
Panther A 149.jpg
Panther A 149.jpg (42.34 KiB) Viewed 4120 times
Now, this also works great with the hatch openings themselves. Lining them makes a nice smooth clean edge and makes the gaps more thin and realistic looking. In case you didn't see it before I have also done this on the front hatches and the rear deck plates to correct some misshapen edges and smooth them off.
so start with a piece that is long enough to go all the way around. Soak the side of the hatch and the middle of the strip and wait a minute for the strip to soften a bit and then stick it on.
Panther A 150.jpg
Panther A 150.jpg (49.71 KiB) Viewed 4120 times
Panther A 151.jpg
Panther A 151.jpg (51.99 KiB) Viewed 4120 times
Repeat this process and make your way around the hatch and when it has dried a little you can nick out the sections where you don't want it. In this case I didn't want it in front of the hinges.
Panther A 152.jpg
Panther A 152.jpg (50.06 KiB) Viewed 4120 times
I left the female end of the hinges on the body of the tank and will scratch them on the hatch but will make them a little more to scale too as they are a little to big and clunky compared to the real thing. and more proper bolt heads! :D
"There are things in Russia which are not as they seem..."
Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov
ALPHA
Major-General
Posts: 10960
Joined: Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:06 am

Re: Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A"

Post by ALPHA »

Hey... I thought this build wasn't for rivet counters :haha: :haha: :haha:

ALPHA
User avatar
dgsselkirk
Warrant Officer 1st Class
Posts: 1508
Joined: Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:57 am
Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
Contact:

Re: Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A"

Post by dgsselkirk »

Hey you didn't even notice the putty on my finger just for you!
"There are things in Russia which are not as they seem..."
Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov
ALPHA
Major-General
Posts: 10960
Joined: Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:06 am

Re: Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A"

Post by ALPHA »

dgsselkirk wrote:Hey you didn't even notice the putty on my finger just for you!
UHHHHHH actually no I didn't 8O .... all your non rivet counting construction kind of got more of my attention than your finger :haha:
especially that lining of the hull for those now operational hatches with home made hinges :O

ALPHA
User avatar
dgsselkirk
Warrant Officer 1st Class
Posts: 1508
Joined: Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:57 am
Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
Contact:

Re: Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A"

Post by dgsselkirk »

Well, fail on the hatch. I did it all up, drilled the holes, put pins in but couldn't keep them as straight as I wanted to so then it occurred to me, why am I dinking around trying to make the hatch function? Just make it like my KT everything is in place just little magnet hold it on and be done with it so that is what I am going to do. you simply lift the hatch off to get at the switches. Still have to trim and file and sand a bit but you get the idea...
Panther A 153.jpg
Panther A 153.jpg (50.63 KiB) Viewed 4092 times
you will also notice I have started to add handles in the right spots and also did the lift hooks. These were stock but they are too fat compared to the real thing so I thinned them out.
Panther A 154.jpg
Panther A 154.jpg (46.08 KiB) Viewed 4092 times
so while the hatch and stuff was drying I decided to tackle the other big thing I wanted to do on this tank, the exhaust. You remember I bought 2 Pantiger uppers and used the cooling fan covers on this tank. Well they also came with the triple exhaust.
Panther A 155.jpg
Panther A 155.jpg (74.39 KiB) Viewed 4092 times
I was going to work on them to make them better but really, the pipes and the attachment point are not right so had to come up with a plan. I decided since the smaller cooling pipes actually are bent in 2 spots I wasn't going to try metal as it would really be hard to get 2 to match closely I think. So I opted for styrene tubes and used my trusty candle to slowly heat and bend the tubing till I got the 2 to look close. I am using the single exhaust and cut the pipe off to use the base.
Panther A 156.jpg
Panther A 156.jpg (64.58 KiB) Viewed 4092 times
I drilled 2 holes in the side and made them oblong to fit the pipes in. I sealed them in place with 2 part epoxy so it will take some force to break them off.
Panther A 157.jpg
Panther A 157.jpg (64.79 KiB) Viewed 4092 times
Next I wanted to add the flanges that are on the pipes where they change direction on the base so got some brass tube and cut it thin with dremel.
Panther A 158.jpg
Panther A 158.jpg (65.93 KiB) Viewed 4092 times
I used a slightly bigger diameter tube so I can simulate the flange coming out and will add a bolt head and nut to it late. So to do this you simply squeeze the ring with small needle nose pliers
Panther A 160.jpg
Panther A 160.jpg (55.66 KiB) Viewed 4092 times
And then squeeze the front of the ring together and viola! you have a neat little flange and it is tight on the tube but just to make sure I did some dots of crazy glue under the ring.
Panther A 161.jpg
Panther A 161.jpg (59.54 KiB) Viewed 4092 times
Panther A 162.jpg
Panther A 162.jpg (57.26 KiB) Viewed 4092 times
And here is how they compare. I still have to bend the large center brass tube. I think they should look pretty good once finished up... :D
Panther A 163.jpg
Panther A 163.jpg (61.58 KiB) Viewed 4092 times
"There are things in Russia which are not as they seem..."
Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov
ALPHA
Major-General
Posts: 10960
Joined: Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:06 am

Re: Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A"

Post by ALPHA »

Going to throw up some nice smoke dgsselkirk... outstanding fabrication :thumbup:

ALPHA
User avatar
dgsselkirk
Warrant Officer 1st Class
Posts: 1508
Joined: Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:57 am
Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
Contact:

Re: Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A"

Post by dgsselkirk »

I hope so Alpha, I hadn't planned on doing smoke but I like the couple of Polish ones I bought so I will try and fit them in. :D

So I think I have all the detailing on the back deck done to the point it is ready to mount me thinks:
Panther A 165.jpg
Panther A 165.jpg (59.37 KiB) Viewed 4066 times
Panther A 166.jpg
Panther A 166.jpg (53.88 KiB) Viewed 4066 times
So I decided to take a whack at finishing the zim on the 2 storage boxes and thought what the heck why not add some PE I had left over from doing my L70. Just because I am a glutton for punishment! So first thing I did was add some hatch plates to the top of the boxes and then finished the zim on the whole box. I will milliput the seams shortly to smooth everything out. So then I went to work on the latches. So here is the result. There are some guys on here that solder them and make them so neat and tidy I have no idea how! :haha: But this is about as good as these old hands and eyes can do...
Panther A 167.jpg
Panther A 167.jpg (48.45 KiB) Viewed 4066 times
Panther A 168.jpg
Panther A 168.jpg (49.07 KiB) Viewed 4066 times
Panther A 169.jpg
Panther A 169.jpg (45.47 KiB) Viewed 4066 times
Panther A 170.jpg
Panther A 170.jpg (55.72 KiB) Viewed 4066 times
With these pics you get my fingers to show the scale of this stuff. It's little! :crazy:
Panther A 171.jpg
Panther A 171.jpg (55.47 KiB) Viewed 4066 times
Panther A 172.jpg
Panther A 172.jpg (46.58 KiB) Viewed 4066 times
Panther A 173.jpg
Panther A 173.jpg (45.8 KiB) Viewed 4066 times
And just for fun I made them operational for the time being. I don't know whether I will leave them this way or not... Would be a pity and pain if they need to be replaced because they opened and got broke off...
Panther A 174.jpg
Panther A 174.jpg (49.04 KiB) Viewed 4066 times
"There are things in Russia which are not as they seem..."
Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov
User avatar
PainlessWolf
Lieutenant-Colonel
Posts: 7641
Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:09 pm
Location: Southern Colorado Rocky Mountains

Re: Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A"

Post by PainlessWolf »

Beautiful work! I don't see any problems with those. It is extra nice that they function but at that size I would share your concern if they were on a tank of mine. Following along.
regards,
Painless
...Here for the Dawn...
Post Reply

Return to “Panther”