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Captured KT and Stug
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:14 pm
by BigPanzer
Hi,
While trying to find info on a Tiger 1 used by the allies in the Netherlands I found these photos.
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... ght=cuckoo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Peter
Re: Captured KT and Stug
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:00 pm
by majordisastor
Good find Peter !!
Andy
Re: Captured KT and Stug
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:35 pm
by Von kraftwerk
somebody was after info about a Tiger I captured on the going cuckoo thread a while back,can't find anything myself,in the old osprey Pz IV book there's some nice pics of an HJ Pz 4 before and after capture,with rough painted stars
Re: Captured KT and Stug
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:50 pm
by BigPanzer
Hi VK,
Yeah, that was me! When I was researching Cuckoo I found one reference to a Tiger 1 captured by the (possibly) Coldstream Guards, (possibly) in the Netherlands.
Whether the reference is correct I don't know because I couldn't find any corroberation.
Cheers
Peter
Re: Captured KT and Stug
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:02 pm
by Von kraftwerk
That StuG would make a good model,I've had that pic for some years in Squadron's Sturmgeschutz in action its a nice big clear print with some interesting details like an MP44 in the MG mount
Re: Captured KT and Stug
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:26 pm
by littletankman
Nice pictures . I see the Stug has the travel barrel lock and zimmerit , just goes to show that things listed in order in books are not always as seen in real combat pictures.
Andy
Re: Captured KT and Stug
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:46 pm
by Von kraftwerk
until that pic I always thought that travel lock came after zimmerit period,then again Stugs are often a mix of old and new due to repairs,
Re: Captured KT and Stug
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:30 pm
by littletankman
Hi mate thats what I ment . I made my HL Stug III ausf.G a late version with waffle zimmerit . I left the barrel travel lock of .I suppose a travel lock could be made in the field .
Re: Captured KT and Stug
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:56 pm
by Von kraftwerk
Well I think we can be pretty certain that the travel lock was a factory fit,most waffle zim StuG did'nt have them,and had the old type MG shield,but there's always exceptions esp with StuG,I've got a pic of a StuH 42 with non standard travel lock and an over size saukopf,early production saukopf without zim,mid prod sq mantlet with pz IV style zim and smoke launchers and some with tile pattern zim,some ausf F's were retrofitted with saukopf,another StuH with saukopf was in unit with StuG's with squared mantlet with co-ax with unusual reinforcing ring,and late type schurzen,almost anything goes!