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Glosscoat before applying transfer decals?

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:25 pm
by Victor
Hi just wondering what surface you need before applying the transfers also is their any special things you use for transfers or is it just water?

Re: Glosscoat before applying transfer decals?

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:49 am
by Tankie
Definitely you need a gloss coat before transfers and leave it to set well. I always use microsol solution to make the transfers settle well - there are other similar products from other manufacturers. Leave the transfers to set for a day or so, then another thin gloss coat over the top. Leave to dry for a day or so then spray over with a matt varnish finish. I've found that spraying matt straight on top of transfers can give a 'clouding' effect if it gets under the edges. Better safe than sorry.

Re: Glosscoat before applying transfer decals?

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:51 pm
by Victor
Tankie wrote:Definitely you need a gloss coat before transfers and leave it to set well. I always use microsol solution to make the transfers settle well - there are other similar products from other manufacturers. Leave the transfers to set for a day or so, then another thin gloss coat over the top. Leave to dry for a day or so then spray over with a matt varnish finish. I've found that spraying matt straight on top of transfers can give a 'clouding' effect if it gets under the edges. Better safe than sorry.
Could i use a satin coat instead of a gloss coat, because i have the basecoat on now and i want to add the satin coat then add decal transfers then do a black-wash then add another satin coat then top it off with a matte coat.

Re: Glosscoat before applying transfer decals?

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:33 pm
by Tankie
The transfers still won't take as well to satin as to gloss. I'd gloss on top of the satin paint you've used already (it doesn't need to be a uniform coat but at least where the transfers are going), then carry on as I suggested. You can go transfer- gloss varnish-matt varnish - black wash - matt varnish. It really will make a significant improvement.

Re: Glosscoat before applying transfer decals?

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:39 am
by Victor
Tankie wrote:The transfers still won't take as well to satin as to gloss. I'd gloss on top of the satin paint you've used already (it doesn't need to be a uniform coat but at least where the transfers are going), then carry on as I suggested. You can go transfer- gloss varnish-matt varnish - black wash - matt varnish. It really will make a significant improvement.
You cant really do a black wash on matt varnish can you? because of the capillary action? hmmm...

Re: Glosscoat before applying transfer decals?

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:16 am
by Saxondog
MATT VARNISH.jpg
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This is what I use,recommended in the painting and weathering section, First Johnsons floor polish seals all the colors and decals if left to dry for at least 24hrs. But when you apply the Matt Varnish the finish become very flat and looks like steal. It's hard to put in words but it does the job very well. The Painting and weathering in grey post shows some before and after shots,I was upset with the glossy look the floor polish caused on my Tiger. But when I sprayed the VARNISH and let it sit for a day it was a different tank,i WAS AMAZED AT THE FINISH. This technique is proven with acrylic or enamel paints.

Saxondog
BEFORE MATT VARNISH/ JOHNSON'S FLOOR POLISH
BEFORE MATT VARNISH/ JOHNSON'S FLOOR POLISH
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AFTER MATT VARNIXH
AFTER MATT VARNIXH
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Re: Glosscoat before applying transfer decals?

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:00 pm
by Victor
Saxondog wrote:
MATT VARNISH.jpg
This is what I use,recommended in the painting and weathering section, First Johnsons floor polish seals all the colors and decals if left to dry for at least 24hrs. But when you apply the Matt Varnish the finish become very flat and looks like steal. It's hard to put in words but it does the job very well. The Painting and weathering in grey post shows some before and after shots,I was upset with the glossy look the floor polish caused on my Tiger. But when I sprayed the VARNISH and let it sit for a day it was a different tank,i WAS AMAZED AT THE FINISH. This technique is proven with acrylic or enamel paints.

Saxondog
Klear coat stage 001.JPG
13COMPANY TIGER S-13 GROSSDEUTSCHLAND.JPG
Kool, im not sure how to use that in an air brush but i bought vallejo air matte and vallejo air satin varnish since i know they work in an air brush and i coudlnt get hold of any krylon or testors spray varnish so i had to go with that.

Re: Glosscoat before applying transfer decals?

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:08 pm
by Saxondog
The original post in the Painting and weathering section was OZ(the Master) teaching me to airbrush and that is how I learned about this product, no matter what you use test small area's to see what the finish will look like.The varrnish is sprayed without thinner straight from the can.

And no matter what you do, Easy-off oven cleaner will strip your tank back to plastic with out harm to the tank.
Before stripping
Before stripping
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After Stripping
After Stripping
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