Hatch hinge pattern?

[capt midnight]

Does anyone have a drawing or pattern for hatch hinges?

I've been trying to make some for my Jagdpanzer IV, but no luck so far. I tried the ones that came with the conversion kit, but couldn't get them to work. I know it's most likely something I'm just not seeing, but it's got me at a dead end.

Thanks!

Bill

[jarndice]

Hi Bill, No plans I'm afraid but if you go to
http://www.kenny22.com
Click on "AFV" and scroll down to the "Jagdpanzer1V"
you might get some ideas,
Shaun.

[AlwynTurner]

Here's a design, it's in downloads as an openscad file or II can email an stl file. Hinge dimensions are 8mm x 6mm



Alwyn

[silversurfer1947]

Hi Bill, No plans I'm afraid but if you go to
http://www.kenny22.com
Click on "AFV" and scroll down to the "Jagdpanzer1V"
you might get some ideas,
Shaun.

Looking at the pictures of the Jagdpanzer IV, the hatches seem to have a cantilevered sort of hinge that lifts the hatch clear. My Puma had a similar arrangement, though it was a pig to try to fit. If it will help, I can photograph the relevant it of the mnual.

[capt midnight]

Thanks for the info, Alwyn. I'm in need of the cantilever type hinges. I tried modifying the kit supplied hinges, but was still left scratching my head.

Richard, If you could post a picture, I would really appreciate it. I know when I get it worked out it's gonna be one of those smack your forehead moments!

Thanks, guys!

Bill

[43rdRecceReg]

This unit resembles the one illustrated in Alwyn's picture. Whilst not strictly cantilever in operation (like a kitchen cabinet door fitting...), it is based WW2 German tank components, apparently.
It would be handy to see a blueprint of the full-scale real deal..

Workable hinge for German tanks

Workable Hinge for German tanks.jpg (29.51 KiB) Viewed 2656 times

It would have the effect of lifting a hatch clear, I guess....
here's the link to the designer/maker:
https://www.shapeways.com/product/DFZF4 ... tanks-1-16
Good luck finding a solution. Details like this are often the hardest ones for a modeller to get right...

[jarndice]

Hallo Roy,I trust the snow is not keeping you housebound,
The Hinges that Bill is referring to are similar in their action to the ones to be found on the drivers and radio operators hatches on a Tiger1 only instead of being a single pillar cantilever they are twin pillar cantilever,
The ones from Shapeway are great on the engine hatches of a PZ4 but they are not like the hatch hinges of a JagdPanzer1V,
So much for Shapeways saying that it was the standard hinge fitted to German Armour
Keep warm old friend.
Shaun.

[silversurfer1947]

Here are a couple of photos, which may or may not help you in your struggles.

At the risk of stating the blindlingly obvious, C-18 is the cantilever hinge, secured in place by C-17. It is supposed to be a working hinge but I found C-17 to be so small it was impossible to get a secure fixing. After one or two operations it came off every time. In the end, there was no need as the commander is firmly glued in place. I have tried to photograph it in situe, but this is the best I could do.

I hope this helps.

[43rdRecceReg]

Just a long shot. If Tamiya have the correct hinge pattern on their Jagdpanzer IV, it might we worthwhile ordering the particular sprue they're embedded in. That could be expensive, though.
Fabricating a hinge out of tin, or copper sheet might be the best way forward, though...once the correct pattern is found. Desperate times require desperate measures
Here's the link to the Tamiya manual with the lists of sprues (and the parts they contain) at the end..
http://www.tamiya.de/CommonFiles/Dickie ... zer_IV.pdf
Similarly, if their Tiger 1 has cantilevers anywhere..the sprue should be available. Not having built one, (yet ) I wouldn't know though..
Hi, Shaun,
dear old chap. Nah, Currently I'm still south of Hadrian's Wall- visiting some friendly Sassenach. I'm heading home on Sunday, and hoping not to do a repeat of Captain Scott in the process!
Hopefully, the Nitty Gritters will have a carved a passage though the snow by then Though I'm preparing for the worst...hmm.. If only I could get a snow plough for a Honda Jazz
In Norway, it wouldn't have been a problem. As we're on a similar latitude, you'd expect oor authorities tae have some snow expertise by now. Apparently not. Must be the wrong kind
(British Rail) type of snow...

[43rdRecceReg]

Just tracked down this image of REAL Jagdpanzer IV hatch hinges if it helps, Bill...

Jagpanzer IV Hatch Hinges...the real thing