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Brass for Schützen.

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 8:46 pm
by Rad_Schuhart
Hi everyone. Im working on a winter Panzer IV with schützen and I want to do the mounts with brass. I have never worked with it before, so how thick you recommend me to buy it? Is it easy to solder? Thanks!

Re: Brass for Schützen.

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:01 pm
by jarndice
Might I suggest you save your money and use a soft drinks can or similar instead of Brass and as to soldering, the secret is to use a liquid solder such as "FRYOLUX PAINT" and a butane Torch such as a "NIMROD SOLDERPRO-50K" , You paint the liquid solder where it is needed and then using the torch join the two pieces together, THIS COMES WITH A WARNING, "FRYOLUX PAINT" is HIGHLY TOXIC treat it with respect. >:<
Shaun.

Re: Brass for Schützen.

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:21 pm
by Rad_Schuhart
Lol, thanks for your advice, but I think this is calling the death three times for me.
First the soft drink can cuts way too much (I still have scars when I used to stupidly play with them as a kid) and the tank is for me and my sons, so donk want to leave sharp edges out there.
Second the torch, I dont want to end in flames like an Inquisition`s victim. (I have a lack of hability)
And third if I survive, I still have to deal with that higly toxic product. (I cant find my post apocalypse suit)

So I think I will stick with the brass, but thank you very much for your help!

Re: Brass for Schützen.

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:24 pm
by ausf
I use K & S engineering brass for everything for Schurzen to submarine prop shafts. I'm not sure if there is an equivalent over in the UK (or if there are stockists for K&S).

The trick is a hot iron and flux. If you pre-tin the areas you want to join, then clamp and hold the iron against it until you see both sides melt and start to bubble, you'll get a good join.

In terms of thickness, they make different angles and channel for the brackets and for the sheet, you want something thick enough to have some heft and hold shape, but thin enough to easily cut.

Here's mine on a Pz IV with Thoma schurzen and the StuG with solid.
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Re: Brass for Schützen.

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 6:40 pm
by siegfried
There is some very thin brass sheet at my local model store, some no thicker than paper and can be cut with household scissors, holds shape fine and at 1.5 mm still easy to cut and drill. A sheet would do one and a half tank sides and costs around £4 a sheet, the extra left over is great for making straps, hatch covers etc. So easy to cut with scissors, so great to work with you can do realistic dings and bends from battle damage as brass is soft and easy to bend to shape.