HL alternative sounds...?

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During my mad moments I ponder various electronic things and recently I had a thought. I can't see any reason why this wouldn't work and I may even give it a go. If anyone can think why it wouldn't work then feel free to pass comment.

Ok, as we all know the HL sound is an excellent rendition of a bag of marbles being dropped onto a tin tray. There is no way to change that as the sound is hard coded onto a chip. It's either put up with the racket or turn the sound off.

So, what to do?

Beier cards will do the trick, they are programmable, quality but cost as much if not more than full blown tank boards, so not a cheap option by any means.

I took a look around the web, and there are gift card type sound cards that you can record messages onto. If messages can be recorded then so can tank sounds. We are not talking state of the art here, just something different to the HL sound. Even a random track squeak would be better, with no engine noise.

Alternatively, using something like Audacity, an engine sound could be merged with a track squeak, so even with only one channel, you could have two sounds.

The cards allow various lengths of recordings, but we would only need 5 - 10 seconds on a loop. The amplifier output on these is tiny, about 0.5 watts, but a cheap amp can be had/built for a few pounds.

The recording and playback isn't a problem, but activating the sound while the tank is moving is?

I had a scout around and there is a motion sensor switch that will activate a circuit when it is moving. So, if this was mounted on a spring inside the tank, as long as the tank was moving, the sensor would bounce around and start the playback on the card. When the tank stopped, so would the sound (this is my biggest issue, stopping the sound when the tank stops, rather than have it carry on playing an entire recorded track).

There are other slightly more expensive cards, about £20 that have a host of features, and allow usb downloads of sounds etc, however, the spec sheet of these confuses the hell out of me. I do wonder though whether one of these can be configured to activate from a channel on the rx, or maybe from the motor drive leads as they only have current when the tank is moving. If the smoke unit stops when the tank is stationary, maybe that would do it.

Power for a board could either be a seperate battery, or from the 7.2v battery as long as a resistor or regulator was in place.

Now, am I barking mad, or is there someone out there with an understanding of electronics who knows for certain whether this set up would work?

Here are a few links:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/miniature-tilt-switch-fe11m

https://learn.adafruit.com/downloads/pd ... -board.pdf

http://www.radioshack.com/9v-recording- ... HnTi493TtR

Please try and keep your replies on topic, I am only interested in whether this type of system would work. :clap:

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If the system could be started and stopped by a specific voltage feed then the motor lead with the correct resistor could activate the sound at the level of current which is known to create motion? I use a similar simple circuit to create the proportional effect of the super smokers. If just switching on and off during motion is what you're attempting this may well work,adding a diode as well to restrict the current flow will allow the same circuit to activate in reverse?

Hope this helps,I'm not that proficient with electronics. But this simple circuit can provide on/off activation. A micro power switch being the actual SWITCH the motor power simply trips the switch to turn on and off.
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Since you have to use an external audio amp for the sound card, choose one that has a " mute" switch...

This way you could turn on and off the sound even if the card keeps playing...

The other problem you're gonna face will be how to shift the frequency on the recording to simulate an increase or decrease of the R.P.M. when moving your tank...

This is very hard to do using a digital recording...

A while ago, I design and built an analog sound card for my tank to beef-up the running sound of the RX-18
The sound was made of 2 X 555 ic oscillators set up as Voltage Controlled Oscillator to shift the frequencies ( I was tapping into the motor terminals with diodes for the control voltage; like we do for the proportional H.L. smoke unit)

The start and stop on the card was done by a sound activated switch with adjustable time delay; using the sound of the RX-18 for signal...


Here's a video of what it sounded like:http://youtu.be/bQeaXl-PzUE?list=UUoWjH ... nVnrbH3GxQ
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Interesting info, thanks for the input.

The reason I was going for a track squeak if nothing else, is that it would be the least dependent on speed. RPM's wouldn't matter too much. I was just thinking about how to get a sound that was a 'sound', without having the RX18 sound.

I appreciate the problems with speed steps (I used to create my own Elmod sound files, it was hard enough even with that set up :/ ).

If I could put something together for little money, it might be worth a go just to see what it's like, if nothing else.

One question about the sound switch, was it ever activated by ambient noise?

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No the switch was activated by the engine sound of the RX-18; I was tapping into the RX-18 audio amp...

I was using a digital recording & play back card for the sound of the main gun...This way I was cancelling the track recoil when firing the main gun...

Here's a better video with the analog engine sound and the digital main gun sound:
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I see what you did there, very good, the engine sounds are also a lot better in this vid.

If only HL used standard RC I could turn the sound module on/off via the forward/reverse very easily.

I could still possibly use a pico switch to turn the sound module on/off when the forward/reverse was pushed. I could just run a Y lead off the reciever to the switch. It's for my cargo tractor so there are no turret or gun controls.

The method that you used would also work of course.

There is a version of the Adafruit board that comes with a good amp, and it all seems to run off 5v, so the HL light circuit would power it. I am now very tempted to give this a go. :thumbup:
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