WW2 GERMAN BUNKER

[Militarymight]

Help needed i want to make one of these will post some pics soon to show what i have in mind but i need advise on what materials to use and how to initially build the frame work.
This will be my contribution to the 1/16 village

[Matdragon]

ive found a good way of making landscape (ie. to go around the bunker) is to get polystyrene, stick it onto ply, build it up in layers then carve the landscape out of it when its all stuck together! then i get plaster and sheet fabric in strips and lay that all over the top, this gives a great top layer, and hardens it. then for the paint, i mix pva and the paint and paint over it. this provides it with another strengthening layer! about the rest of the bunker, maybe you could make ply molds and fill then with cement ?

cheers, hope some of my gabbling helps somebody!

Matt

[Crispy]

I made loads of concrete bunkers and buildings for Warhammer 40K when I was a lad, best thing i found was foam card. Its a layer of foam sandwiched between two layers of thin cardboard. Its very easy to cut, shape and glue with white, PVA or wood glue and comes in all sorts of thickness's. You can buy it in art shops. I used the 10mm stuff to create broken walls and ruined city buildings.  You could cut a rough edge and then distress it more with a metal ruler. When glueing parts together i used cocktail sticks pushed into the foam to hold it in place until the glue dried. Then i'd paint it with dark grey Sandtex exterior house paint applied quite thickly and even add a bit more sand to it to fill in any holes and gaps.  Then spray it with a lighter grey and it gave you a very realistic and above all quick and easy concrete look.

It was such an easy way to build i managed to almost cover an 8ft x 4ft board we used for wargaming with these ruined buildings, i even built a high rise office block apx 2ft high out of the stuff.

Ok so my bedroom did look like Sarajevo for a while but i had understanding parents and it kept me quite while i was making them... until the games began ...... which Rocketman always lost!

Ahhhh those were the days.... 

[Militarymight]

This is what i want to build

[Crispy]

WOW, thats gonna be huge in 1/16 

Maybe 5ft x 5ft.

I assume you'd want it pretty light to pick up and transport about, maybe in sections to help moving it? You could go with the foam card i mentioned but it'd be a good idea to give it a wooden base. Like Matdragon said it would also be good to build the ground work up around the bunker so it looks like its "in" the landscape, but that maybe difficult to match into the different battlegrounds it'll be on. I found with the foam board you could peel off one of the card layers and shape the foam underneath quite well. It'd be good to make those rounded concrete corners on the bunker and keep it pretty light. If you sealed the foam with a few layers of thick paint if becomes pretty tough.

Otherwise if you want it to be very tough I'd think about using thick MDF from the DIY store. That'll let you mould the corners and cut the concrete blocks into the MDF but make it very strong... and heavy.

Is the gun barrel going to be similar in size to an 88?

[Rivetcounter]

Andy I think what you want to build is an M612 Pak 40 bunker, pictures below are from Oostende Ravajade and the buried one is from Oostende Halve Mann which is close to the Hundius battery these latter two sites are being excavated and opened to the public over the next few years, hope these help with your project

[oz]

how about this in 1/16...........

[tiger205]

you would need a 40 foot arctic to transport that in 1/16 oz', isnt that one of the berlin flak towers, they are huge,

              Tony

[oz]

you would need a 40 foot arctic to transport that in 1/16 oz', isnt that one of the berlin flak towers, they are huge,

               Tony

yep it is mate, but imagine the look on peoples faces when you pull up with that thing in your trailer at the next meet........

[tiger205]

i would pay to see their faces oz, it would be seriously funny. i done a google earth search awhile ago for the berlin flak towers after seeing a documentry on them, there is one left, but its part collapsed and in ruins, but still an awesome sight, if youve got google earth type in " flakturm Humbolthain Park berlin" then you should be able to see the flak tower remains

              Tony