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running in gears

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:42 am
by emmasdad
Guys read somewhere that gears need to be run in......

I have a set of Waltersons gears ready to fit into my Asiatam Tiger1 hull, fitting them shouldn't be a problem. Now, how do I run them in please......

So sorry, found the answer to this question in another post, mods please remove....

Re: running in gears

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:16 am
by Tankbear
The brass ones I just run directly off a battery on work bench before installing I would say an hour in each direction but you battery probably won't last so a full change battery each way.

I wouldn't use any cutting paste on brass as already soft.

Ian.

Re: running in gears

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 8:21 pm
by FreakyDude
be careful running in the Waltersons gears, they fit together well and most of the time need to be checked for box squareness and alignement only. Once they are alligned they run together with just some grease on them and really don't need to be broken in at all.
In my experience all you have to do most of the time is loosen the 3 screws that hold the box together and move the outer plate up or down a bit to get max alignment on the gears, once they all move freely retighten the screws and grease the gears, run them at slow speed for about 1 minute in each direction just to spread the grease around between the teeth.( some grease will fly off as well )
Then your ready to put them in your tank and use them. The tolerance between these gears is good and the teeth are cut nice and straight so there should be minimal issue.
I do the above before I ship all my boxes, If that doesn't work then I do something else which I won't post because not everyone should be tearing these boxes down and reassembling them.
emmasdad wrote:Guys read somewhere that gears need to be run in......

I have a set of Waltersons gears ready to fit into my Asiatam Tiger1 hull, fitting them shouldn't be a problem. Now, how do I run them in please......

So sorry, found the answer to this question in another post, mods please remove....

Re: running in gears

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:15 pm
by Red Devils
Hey Emmasdad,

Just a heads up, I just tried to fix the Waltersons gearboxes to my Asiatam gearbox plate. They don't fit, there are no alignment holes for those gearboxes. Wish I would have known that before I ordered them. The Walterson plate also doesn't work without some mods, strickly the junk HL Hull. I'll figure something out. Maybe someone on here has done it before and can chime in. Later dude.

Derek

Re: running in gears

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:34 am
by FreakyDude
Derek
Workin on a plate for the Asiatam/Taigen, there has been one guy that did mod things and they ended working well. You have 3 options, pm me and i'll send pics of the mod or I'll take the boxes back.:thumbup: you can also wait and you will get the sample production plate I am having machined. A bud of mine owns a machine shop and he is going to drill them out when he is not busy.

The difference between the two plates is small but in steel small can be miles.
Let me know by pm
Red Devils wrote:Hey Emmasdad,

Just a heads up, I just tried to fix the Waltersons gearboxes to my Asiatam gearbox plate. They don't fit, there are no alignment holes for those gearboxes. Wish I would have known that before I ordered them. The Walterson plate also doesn't work without some mods, strickly the junk HL Hull. I'll figure something out. Maybe someone on here has done it before and can chime in. Later dude.

Derek

Re: running in gears

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:10 am
by Red Devils
Hey buddy, PM sent...

Derek

Re: running in gears

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:42 am
by emmasdad
Thanks guys, very kind. I have the boxes fitted, having said that it wasn't easy and they are only secured by 2 screws aside. Not ideal, but they are alined and holding securely for now. I suppose we have to adapt and overcome when fitting quality components, but hey that's part of the fun of our hobby.....ain't it.

Re: running in gears

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:28 am
by Glen B
FreakyDude wrote:Derek
Workin on a plate for the Asiatam/Taigen, there has been one guy that did mod things and they ended working well.
Perhaps that was me ??? ;)

What follows are the basics, but I left a bunch of details out or the post would be really long.
Gearbox 1 Check Shaft Protrusion.jpg
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The shaft protrusion is important, you have to match it with the new set up.
Gearbox 2 Cut Plate.jpg
Gearbox 2 Cut Plate.jpg (33.47 KiB) Viewed 960 times
Cut the plate down the middle so you can spread it enough to get the shaft protrusion needed with the Waltersons
Gearbox 3 Cut New Plate Mounting Holes.jpg
Gearbox 3 Cut New Plate Mounting Holes.jpg (36.68 KiB) Viewed 960 times
Cut some new holes to match the threaded holes in the plate in the Taigen Tiger I
Gearbox 4 Match Shaft Protrusion.jpg
Gearbox 4 Match Shaft Protrusion.jpg (44.66 KiB) Viewed 960 times
Get the protrusion you need with the Waltersons.
Gearbox 5 Mounting Plate Installed.jpg
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The grey plate is a piece of steel used to hold things down.

I used 3mm hex head cap screws.

The cap screws for the gearbox mounts are colour coded, the red one is cut short so it doesn't impact on the frame rail under the plate in the Taigen.

Re: running in gears

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:57 am
by Red Devils
Hey Glen B,

Thanks for the reply on this topic. Hopefully I will not have to go this far with modifying the plate. Freakydude has an individual who making up new plates to work with the Asiatam/Taigen hulls and Walterson gearboxes. Thanks again buddy...

Derek