Updates to my Early Tiger I

[ALPHA]

I believe we had an H/L 2.7Ghz equipped dozer, and at least 1 Taigen 2.4Ghz equipped tank too. As a group we run anything and everything, stock and custom set ups.

Greets Scalawag.... I'm actually not aware of what Richy is running in his Tiger.... But if he wanted to battle ...wouldn't he have to change to some IR unit that everyone else is using? It's just that I recall reading awhile back that Stock IR units that are installed is not what everyone else uses


ALPHA

We do use Tamiya as the standard IR battling system purely because we have to have some standard for all our tanks to battle with one another and Tamiya is the oldest and most used worldwide, however this is only one aspect of our group.

To assume that we are just interested in IR battles would be incorrect.

Personally, whilst I do enjoy battling I am far more interested in driving my tanks with some degree of historical accuracy, which actually makes most of my tanks not so good for battling as they are heavy and a bit slow.

We have no restrictions on what people run at all and everything is welcome. If you enjoy turning up with a stock H/L setup and trundle around the battlefield we have set up that is fine, and we won't be battling non stop.
If you want to try out battling we can sort out a tank for you to try it and see if it is for you, and if it is, then it does not need to cost a fortune to equip a standard H/L or Taigen set up with an add on tamiya compatible battle system. We will even help you out with setting it up

For Richy this is good news ....especially if you all have loaner tanks

Once people have seen the benefits of the aftermarket systems though not many stay with stock set ups.

I don't know... though I like the sounds that the aftermarket stuff has.... I am really liking the new gen 2.4 rigs from Heng Long...They must have put an amplifier circuit in it ...because the volume at max adjustment is awesome...not to mention I like being able to turn the smoke on or off remotely

ALPHA

[scalawag]

Hi ALPHA, Glad you are getting on well with the new H/L 2.4Ghz. I had a chance to look at and play with one at Tankfest this year and they look very good.

The sounds available on after market equipment are awesome. Each of my 5 tanks has a different customised sound set specific to that tank, so even my 2 Tigers sound slightly different to one another.

All have smoke, momentum and breaking, lights on/off, Canon and MG, and engine start/stop on separate Tx switches, and volume control via a rotary switch on the TX.

Additionally each tank has had its forward and reverse speeds adjusted to reflect the real thing, neutral turning (or superspin as we know it thanks to H/L) disabled for those tanks which did not have this, and limited to more historical speeds for those that do. They all have Tamiya compatible IR battling capability. All functions of the boards are fuse protected, with a separate fuse for the motor power circuits, and all can run LiPos safely with no additions or modifications as the boards have built in LiPo low voltage sensing and cut off.

I have a single Tx with model matching so that all the tanks can be turned on but only the selected tank will run, so no need to keep switching between Txs for different tanks, or to bind tanks before using them each time, or trying to find the right Tx for the tank I want to use. I can have all five sitting idling and decide from the Tx which one I want to move. I even have the Type of tank and its number on the TX so that it is easy to identify which tank is selected.

All of these features on my tanks and Tx are easy to adjust, this all being carried out on my computer.

There are so many additional features some aftermarket system have, so its no longer just a case of better sound. I didn't realise half of what is possible with these boards until I moved on to them. Many these days are direct plug and Play installations for H/L or Taigen tanks, and at the lower end, prices really arn't that much more than replacing old stock systems with new ones.

Perhaps this gives you some idea why I prefer aftermarket boards over the stock ones.

[ALPHA]

Hi ALPHA, Glad you are getting on well with the new H/L 2.4Ghz. I had a chance to look at and play with one at Tankfest this year and they look very good.

I wouldn't say they are the best...but they make running the tank a lot more fun lol.....unfortunately... I have the new gen rigs in only two of my tanks... standard 2.4 in four others..... and one RX waiting to be installed in another

The sounds available on after market equipment are awesome. Each of my 5 tanks has a different customised sound set specific to that tank, so even my 2 Tigers sound slightly different to one another.

This I like for sure.... when JohnF told me he was going to program a GUP song into his Panzer III... all I thought was WOW

All have smoke, momentum and breaking, lights on/off, Canon and MG, and engine start/stop on separate Tx switches, and volume control via a rotary switch on the TX.

Additionally each tank has had its forward and reverse speeds adjusted to reflect the real thing, neutral turning (or superspin as we know it thanks to H/L) disabled for those tanks which did not have this, and limited to more historical speeds for those that do. They all have Tamiya compatible IR battling capability. All functions of the boards are fuse protected, with a separate fuse for the motor power circuits, and all can run LiPos safely with no additions or modifications as the boards have built in LiPo low voltage sensing and cut off.

I have a single Tx with model matching so that all the tanks can be turned on but only the selected tank will run, so no need to keep switching between Txs for different tanks, or to bind tanks before using them each time, or trying to find the right Tx for the tank I want to use. I can have all five sitting idling and decide from the Tx which one I want to move. I even have the Type of tank and its number on the TX so that it is easy to identify which tank is selected.

All of these features on my tanks and Tx are easy to adjust, this all being carried out on my computer.

There are so many additional features some aftermarket system have, so its no longer just a case of better sound. I didn't realise half of what is possible with these boards until I moved on to them. Many these days are direct plug and Play installations for H/L or Taigen tanks, and at the lower end, prices really arn't that much more than replacing old stock systems with new ones.

Perhaps this gives you some idea why I prefer aftermarket boards over the stock ones.

Well the only reason I stick with the stock ones is the simplicity.. and space economy lol.... from what I've seen on the aftermarket table... I'm just not sure all the components would fit in some of my tanks without some serious surgery ...Maybe one day... When Tanking really takes hold here in Hawaii

ALPHA

[scalawag]

Yep some of the systems are very flexible sound wise. With some you could even have GUP chatter from the Anime if you wanted too

My german tanks play "panzerleid" when they come back to life after being knocked out in battle, and my Shermans play "bless 'em all"

Some of the boards are larger than the RX18, and most need a receiver for the TX, however I have 2 Shermans with IBU2 pros fitted, and no changes to the hull at all. They even still have the original battery boxes and all fits ok.

I guess we do have the advantage here of numbers of people interested

[ALPHA]

Yep some of the systems are very flexible sound wise. With some you could even have GUP chatter from the Anime if you wanted too

My german tanks play "panzerleid" when they come back to life after being knocked out in battle, and my Shermans play "bless 'em all"

Some of the boards are larger than the RX18, and most need a receiver for the TX, however I have 2 Shermans with IBU2 pros fitted, and no changes to the hull at all. They even still have the original battery boxes and all fits ok.

I guess we do have the advantage here of numbers of people interested

That is just another kind of fun Scalawag....it's really the one thing I surely wish stock tanks could do

All of my favorite Tanks have very little space.... Including the latest L70.... mostly because of the restrictions of the stock TXs I have to use standard internals...the recoil unit in the L70 is huge... so I had to use the 2.4 RX...just because of it's space saving profile...and I can't tell you how freer the interiors of My Shermans and KV are now without that extra receiver board...Oh... I forgot to add in my previous note that the HL 2.4s don't require rebinding ... not sure about the Taigens...but I bind once and take the button out

ALPHA

[tankman]

Thank you for taking the trouble to clarify your statment ALPHA . As Scalawag points out we try and cater for al types of requirements at our meets.
Alan

[ALPHA]

Thank you for taking the trouble to clarify your statment ALPHA . As Scalawag points out we try and cater for al types of requirements at our meets.
Alan

No problem Tankman....I got to learn a lot more as well...sounds like there is something for everyone...even a chance visitor ...Must be one Heck of a fun time when BB battles go on... lucky I'm not there...as I would aim at the controller of the tank than the tank itself ................

ALPHA

[scalawag]

I forgot to add in my previous note that the HL 2.4s don't require rebinding ... not sure about the Taigens...but I bind once and take the button out

ALPHA

Lots of fun to had with these boards.

I was meaning that to use a 2.4Ghz stock controller with more than one tank as some people do, you would have to bind each time you swap to a different tank.

With BB battles you have hit on about the only thing we do not do as a group. We can't at any shows were the public are in attendance anyway as I believe it would void our public liability insurance. I would be pretty upset too if someone started to knock details of my tanks with BBs

Most of us have dispensed with BB tanks in favour of recoil and muzzle flash anyway, either for realism or for IR battling to show the tank has fired.
This doesn't mean by the way that we have banned them from meets, and people are quite welcome to, and do bring bb tanks along, we just have to be clear that BBs can't be fired.

[Richy]

Can I chime in pls.

Although taigen and hl make reasonable sounds the new sound cards that pretty much take care of it all sound world's apart in realism .

Can I ask if there is a sound board I can use without having to modify any plugs or wires from the original taigen tank. Ie do all the plugs just fit into any of the sound boards. I understand I would need a new radio. The problem is I cant get into my turret so all plugs and wires would need to be just plug and play ?

Thanks Richard

[scalawag]

Hi Richy,

Of the systems I know anything about,

The IBU2 which I use now is completely plug and play with H/l or Taigen tanks, you can play with the sounds and settings on a computer as long as you can read a micro SD card. A very flexible and capable board in most aspects, and I have had excellent customer service from RC Tank Electronics.

The Clark system is also plug and play, although some of its features do require a little bit of rewiring if you wanted to make use of them. You also need a specific Sony TV remote control and IR receiver to be able to change settings on this board. Soands are not customisable so you will need to order one with a suitable sound set for the tank you intend to use it in. I would check out the vendors blacklist for TankZone, as they are now the soul distributor for Clark products in the UK I believe.

I believe that Elmod have introduced a range of boards named "Fusion". From what I have seen so far they seem to use mostly H/L connections, but I have no experience with these at all. RC Tank.de is stocking these now.

There are other systems out there but these are the ones I know about in terms of being H/L plug and play.

Most of these systems require a 4 channel radio system, although I would suggest looking at at least 6 channels to give you some flexibility of control.

I am using a Turnigy 9XR from Hobbyking, and an FrSky XJT module, with FrSky X8R receivers.