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Re: Mid Production M4A1 (Tiger guys do it)
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:44 am
by Herr Dr. Professor
Eric, I am glad you made this cast hull/cast turret Sherman: since I was a youngster (not really so long ago--unh, not really so long after WWII), my image of the Sherman tank--of any US tank--was the rounded hull/rounded turret Sherman. I would be delighted if Taigen or HengLong decide to stretch out their profits an make a good cast hull/cast turret 75 version.
Re: Mid Production M4A1 (Tiger guys do it)
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 2:30 am
by Ecam
Herr Dr. Professor wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:44 am
I would be delighted if Taigen or HengLong decide to stretch out their profits an make a good cast hull/cast turret 75 version.
Agreed. Even a good accurate hull that could use the HL turret and lower would be great. I know that RiskyR was working on a 3D printed narrow hatch hull. I think it would sell like hot cakes!
Here is a link to RiskyR's thread
viewtopic.php?p=335686#p335686
Re: Mid Production M4A1 (Tiger guys do it)
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:19 pm
by Herr Dr. Professor
I remember Risky's build with envy.

I wish Eric were still on at Imex, because he would notice this interest, at least among us yanks.
Re: Mid Production M4A1 (Tiger guys do it)
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2023 10:47 pm
by ColemanCollector
Eric,
Could you detail your methods a bit for the small hatch work on the hull?
Mikem
Re: Mid Production M4A1 (Tiger guys do it)
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:41 pm
by Ecam
I'll look through the pictures but I'm relatively sure there will be no documentation of the embarrassing attempts that led to the end result.
Basically I cut away the resin hull just in front of the turret ring (leaving the lip that protects the turret to hull joint). The lower cut was about a 1/2 inch from the very bottom (fenders, trans). I started with the hatch rings tacked in place and started to add hull pieces (the rings ca glued at the rear inside corners only hung in space). It took about three full attempts (with complete teardowns) until I got it close enough for me. There were multi layers of card in that front hull. Once happy, Epoxy and Bondo was added until this picture. You can see at least one of the layers that was used through the hatch. After all was cured, I went back and removed some of the inside layers. I have always used cheap styrene sheet for my builds and I enjoy the possibilities, (the Ducks are nearly 100% flat card).
That gives a good idea where the cuts were made. Very little Bondo is overlapping resin.
In hindsight I wish I had more pictures, but this was really a hack job that turned out OK.
As far as plans, 2D plans are of little use when there are curves. I bet I used 50 plus reference pictures while building/sculpting this. Even in pictures it is often tough to see the curves, a fair amount of guess work is needed.
Re: Mid Production M4A1 (Tiger guys do it)
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:52 pm
by Ecam
Here is a current picture from the inside complete with my temporary hot glued driver.
Hope this helps.
Re: Mid Production M4A1 (Tiger guys do it)
Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:19 am
by Ad Lav
Can’t beat a good cast hull Sherman! That’s why I keep going back to a large hatch cast hull HVSS
Great work!
Re: Mid Production M4A1 (Tiger guys do it)
Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 3:07 pm
by ColemanCollector
Many thanks Eric for the pics and description of your work on the hull. Looks great!
To the shop!
Mike.
Re: Mid Production M4A1 (Tiger guys do it)
Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:47 pm
by Ecam
Let me know if I can be of further assistance.
Re: Mid Production M4A1 (Tiger guys do it)
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2023 9:42 pm
by Ecam
Herr Dr. Professor wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:44 am
Eric, I am glad you made this cast hull/cast turret Sherman: since I was a youngster (not really so long ago--unh, not really so long after WWII), my image of the Sherman tank--of any US tank--was the rounded hull/rounded turret Sherman. I would be delighted if Taigen or HengLong decide to stretch out their profits an make a good cast hull/cast turret 75 version.
I just noticed in your comment that you said cast hull, and didn't mention narrow hatch. Mato does make a wide hatch hull but I think they were always 76ers on both suspensions. I bought one from Forgebear. It's the one on the right.
