First Pershing tank
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- Herr Dr. Professor
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Re: First Pershing tank
I concur with Tiger6 and MrChef. Among over 100 books on WWII AFVs and aircraft, among all the photos of AFVs in active duty, I don't see much rust at all. There are scratches, dust, mud, dirt galore---and a few show some fresh paint (esp. whitewash). E.g.: I will only rust up the outside and carbon blacken the inside of the exhaust on my T26E3, but that's an example of a tank that was in the European theatre a short time in early '45.
Herman Bix is superb at weathering, for his tanks are often replicas of tired, late 20th century AFVs in areas where use is rough, crews are ragtag, and extra paint and parts are not readily available.
Herman Bix is superb at weathering, for his tanks are often replicas of tired, late 20th century AFVs in areas where use is rough, crews are ragtag, and extra paint and parts are not readily available.
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Re: First Pershing tank
The modeling supply companies love it. You think somebody who pays $15 for a bottle of liqui-rust ammo interactive AK Vallejo mig tamiya prima rust effects goo ( trademark and patent pending) is going to put a few delicate streaks on the stowage box hinges? Fuggedaboudit! Titanic rusticles coming up!
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I can get some photos of my friends Sherman tank, restored 6 or 7 years ago. No rust. The odd scrape but nothing serious.
My Willys Jeep, restored 5 years ago, no rust.
Although I do use green t-cut
Joke!
My Willys Jeep, restored 5 years ago, no rust.
Although I do use green t-cut
Joke!
Re: First Pershing tank
I remember seeing the video of the farm they found that tank on.ColemanCollector wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:55 pm The modeling supply companies love it. You think somebody who pays $15 for a bottle of liqui-rust ammo interactive AK Vallejo mig tamiya prima rust effects goo ( trademark and patent pending) is going to put a few delicate streaks on the stowage box hinges? Fuggedaboudit! Titanic rusticles coming up!
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As per the products,,, there is a flourishing market that pretty much exploded during and after Covid as I understand it. Me not being any sort of modeler, just what I gleam from what I read and see. The whole Youtube modeler painting and weathering sensation really took off during Covid and even though many prominent contributors are still builders, their content and structure has morphed. I'm actually a member of the Covid model watcher group, before I even got into RC tanks. The "Extreme Weathering" with contributors like "Night Shift" Martin Kovac are just part of progressing trends. Mig Jimenez and Mike Rinaldi going from hairspray chipping technique to the trendy Oil Paint Rendering. It's big business. Look Mig was with AK then Mig productions and now Ammo by MiG. Money $$$$$ lots and lots of Money $$$$$...
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Re: First Pershing tank
I do find weathering to be over done on a lot of models, but they do it to create visual interest in their build.
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Re: First Pershing tank
Precisely.
And guys like Mig, Night Shift, Panzermeister36 etc. explain this many times when they show a technique. Mig and Mike Rinaldi also very specifically outline what pre-shading, post-shading, color modulation, Oil Rendering all do to create effects and shadows that draw your attention, trick the eye and make things appear bigger, heavier, more metal or in different contrast. But they are usually working in 1/35 or smaller scale. 1/16 scale looks garish when done the same way. AK streaking grime was all the rage and with different techniques for different model segments. Armor modelers use the streaking stuff for streaks of dirt or rust or even thin it for washes. Miniature figure modelers use the same product in a completely different way, pretty much smear it on all over then before dry remove what you want and it brings out details like crazy similar to how Jnewboys "magic grime" works.
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- michaelwhittmann
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Re: First Pershing tank
I will remain a proud "Rustafarian".
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HL Sherman
HL King Tiger
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HL Tiger I
HL Panther
ALL WsIP but pretty much done
HL Sherman
HL King Tiger
HL Panzer III
HL Tiger I
HL Panther
ALL WsIP but pretty much done
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Re: First Pershing tank
Tank tracks are like railway lines and have a patina to them that varies with exposure to the minerals in the strata and suchlike.
Any sheet metal will rust over time but the main armour is high in non ferrous elements that don’t rust.
Any sheet metal will rust over time but the main armour is high in non ferrous elements that don’t rust.
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Re: First Pershing tank
It’s simple and effective, I went down the road of welded on bits of metal removed from destroyed tanks, cut from mudguard or side skirts was my thinking
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Re: First Pershing tank
Just a quick side note: see the return rollers on the Grant in the foreground in ColemanCollector's photo just above. There were some with the "newer" design as on the Sherman. I don't think there were too many,