A 90mm HE round bursting on a steel hull would probably have made the whole thing ring like a cathedrel bell!
Duel At Dessau Super Pershing vs King Tiger
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Re: Duel At Dessau Super Pershing vs King Tiger
Unloading the gun after ramming the shell would have been a major pain - it would be quicker for a well drilled crew to aim and fire what they had, and hope the HE round rattled the enemy crew long enough for the loader to heave an AP round into the breach. 
A 90mm HE round bursting on a steel hull would probably have made the whole thing ring like a cathedrel bell!
			
			
									
						
										
						A 90mm HE round bursting on a steel hull would probably have made the whole thing ring like a cathedrel bell!
Re: Duel At Dessau Super Pershing vs King Tiger
"The Super Pershing had been loaded with an HE only because Irwin had been expecting urban targets, such as buildings, personnel, and light anti-tank guns."Rivetcounter wrote: I would seriously doubt that they would have fired a HE round at a Tiger II for fear that the Tigers own round could have penetrated, 1 chance per round get it wrong and you may never live to have another go
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Re: Duel At Dessau Super Pershing vs King Tiger
lol i cant beleive i was right and i read it when the topic was first posted... 5 months ago! 
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						cheers,
Matt
Re: Duel At Dessau Super Pershing vs King Tiger
Matt, 
Thank you very much for this fascinating history.
Any more information on the Super Pershing, e.g why more were not produced??
Sure would have been very useful in Korea
Red
			
			
									
						
							Thank you very much for this fascinating history.
Any more information on the Super Pershing, e.g why more were not produced??
Sure would have been very useful in Korea
Red
Sheriff Buelton: He stole a g.. d... tank! 
Maj. Gen. V.E. Hubik: It's his tank he can do what he wants with it!
			
						Maj. Gen. V.E. Hubik: It's his tank he can do what he wants with it!
Re: Duel At Dessau Super Pershing vs King Tiger
i, cant take the credit, Keith found it!Rooikat wrote: Matt,
Thank you very much for this fascinating history.
Any more information on the Super Pershing, e.g why more were not produced??
Sure would have been very useful in Korea
Red
but yes i assume more we'nt produced because the war ended, and yes a few more were made and used in the Korean war i seem to remember, but only 2 in WW2 ...FireflyKeith wrote: This is a good battle story about two giants of WWII, i wonder if the outcome would have been different if the KT had a better crew
http://www.3ad.com/history/news/super.pershing.1.htm
cheers,
Matt
Re: Duel At Dessau Super Pershing vs King Tiger
My aplogies Keith! 
Thanks Matt!
			
			
									
						
							Thanks Matt!
Sheriff Buelton: He stole a g.. d... tank! 
Maj. Gen. V.E. Hubik: It's his tank he can do what he wants with it!
			
						Maj. Gen. V.E. Hubik: It's his tank he can do what he wants with it!
Re: Duel At Dessau Super Pershing vs King Tiger
Because after the war the M-26 became the M-48 with an improved 90mm gun.Rooikat wrote: Matt,
Any more information on the Super Pershing, e.g why more were not produced??
Re: Duel At Dessau Super Pershing vs King Tiger
Thanks Woz 
			
			
									
						
							Sheriff Buelton: He stole a g.. d... tank! 
Maj. Gen. V.E. Hubik: It's his tank he can do what he wants with it!
			
						Maj. Gen. V.E. Hubik: It's his tank he can do what he wants with it!
Re: Duel At Dessau Super Pershing vs King Tiger
How does the Super Pershing's (aka T26E4-1) long-barreled T15E1 90mm gun compare with the T48's upgraded 90mm gun?  
 
Thanks
Red
			
			
									
						
							Thanks
Red
Sheriff Buelton: He stole a g.. d... tank! 
Maj. Gen. V.E. Hubik: It's his tank he can do what he wants with it!
			
						Maj. Gen. V.E. Hubik: It's his tank he can do what he wants with it!