Restoring smoke pulse effect

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MarkofZollo
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Re: Restoring smoke pulse effect

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Nicely put together. Where did you get the resistor from?
I have been trying to get my smoker working and I remembered a thread on here about using 5A fuse wire to replace stock wire, gave it a go and smoke came from a resistor on the RX-18 instead lol. Could you show a quick diagram of how to wire it all up?
Thanks for your help, I got all the bits for the valve but wont build until i get smoke from the right place :D
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Dave
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Re: Restoring smoke pulse effect

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I got the resistor from this supplier :
http://www.surplussales.com/Resistors/W ... 0-169.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Look for part #: (RWF) WL14-1 14 ohm 5 % 1 W Wire Wound resistor $0.50
They have a nice supply of electronic equipment and it's worthed to browse their catalog ....
If I recall ; the minimum order is $ 10.00 ....
If you have any trouble to get these , just send me a P. M. with your mailing address and I"ll send you 2 or 3 of them with the wicks ....

As for the wiring diagram ; I'm already working on an improved version of the re generator and I should be able to post a new video this week with new pics and all the infos .... :wave: :wave:
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Cool cheers buddy :thumbup: .
Iv just replaced the resistor that I fried on the rx18 (it has R22 next to it) by the same one im sure, but I get no power to the smoker. Everything else works fine so I dont know if its worth paying to replace the board to get the smoke working.
Thanks for your help anyway,
Dave
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[quote][Everything else works fine so I dont know if its worth paying to replace the board to get the smoke working.

Don't replace your board ; chances are that you blew the power transistor driving the smoke unit ....Just bypass the transistor and send the power directly to the smoker ...The only difference is that the smoker will turn on as soon as you turn on the power switch ...It's not synchronised with the sound anyway ...
If you are handy with a soldering iron ; here's a few pics ...
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Nice one, thanks for the info, I will see if I can replace that part first before I bypass it. When you say 'The only difference is that the smoker will turn on as soon as you turn on the power switch' do you mean the main power switch for the whole tank?
Did you have a wiring diagram for the smoker and pulse generator?
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Dave
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Re: Restoring smoke pulse effect

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MarkofZollo wrote:Nice one, thanks for the info, I will see if I can replace that part first before I bypass it. When you say 'The only difference is that the smoker will turn on as soon as you turn on the power switch' do you mean the main power switch for the whole tank?
Did you have a wiring diagram for the smoker and pulse generator?
Thanks again,
Dave
Yes ; I mean the power switch for the whole tank ...
The only thing that will happen is that your smoke unit will turn on before you start the engine ...
In any case ; the transistor powering the smoker is just an electronic switch controlled by the main processor ....
I find the time delay too long to be realistic ( It takes around 3 minutes after the engine is running before the smoke appears at the tail pipes ) ...

As for the schematics ; if you are already using the H.L. proportional smoke unit ; the only modification I've done is to wire the mini-fan terminals in parallel with the pumping motor terminals ...
Here's a few pics to explain and also to show the latest upgrade on my pulse re generator ( compared to an original H.L. smoker )
I also made a short video to show how it works ...
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strmnd54, your knowledge and helpfulness seems unending! I think my problem is I have been trying to have the heating element and the fan/pump in parallel, I can see on your circuit there is something between the power in from main board and power out for fan/pump. I have the non-proportional smoker, perhaps I should have mentioned this earlier, so I will try to find an alternative.
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Lol update as of 40 mins later, I wired in the jumper wire, and put the smoker and fan back through origional mini board and.....we have smoke!!!!
No where near as much as you, I am using a 1/4 watt 22 ohm resistor as per your info on rc universe I think it was, but its still smoke, havnt seen that in months!!
The switch still seems to work, the smoker doesnt start until I put the smoke switch in the 'on' position.
Anyway perhaps I may have to take you up on that offer of getting the better resistor and wicks from you, I cant seem to find anything much closer than what I have in UK.
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Dave
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Re: Restoring smoke pulse effect

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I'm glad you have your unit smoking again ....
I'm a little bit confuse when you say that you have the non-proportional unit ...Does it mean that you had to cut open the heat chamber top to replace the heater element and reseal it ; or is the top removable and held by 4 small screws .....( which means that your unit is proportional ) ???

In any case , I do have some replacement transistors to repair your Rx-18 board ( so you could restore the smoker like the original ).. I also have some H.L. spare proportional boards for the smoker if you are non-proportional and want to go proportional ...I could mail you those parts with some resistors and wicks if you want to ...
I've been messing around with the H.L. electronic for a while now and I smoked my share of boards ; but living in northern Ontario and around 4 hours drive away from Mato toys allows me to be a bit bolder in my projects ...( I can have spare parts within 2 days ) ....
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I have the four screws but my unit has no relation to the motors, pic of the board;
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Sorry if I am misunderstanding something :shifty:
Thats pretty cool about where you live, i would be so tempted to drive there and break in lol ;D
Dave
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