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Re: Big hello from Shropshire!

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 9:47 am
by Meter rat
Hello Steve. Welcome to the forum from Scotland. Walked a lot on the Long Mynd. Starting with a Challenger? Welcome to a world of misery, despondency, and financial ruin. They do look cool though, especially fully up armoured.

Re: Big hello from Shropshire!

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:43 am
by Trooper
Thanks all!

Very nice welcome, think I am going to like it here.

Re: Big hello from Shropshire!

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:24 pm
by ColemanCollector
Welcome from Ontario, Canada! So I'm thinking your tank will be pretty accurate, having lived in one and all!
If you're ever in Oshawa, Ontario, (just outside Toronto) stop by the Ontario Regiment Museum. They have a running Chieftain and they'd probably take you out for a spin--or let you overhaul the engine! It was running a bit sickly this summer.
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Mike.

Re: Big hello from Shropshire!

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:18 pm
by Trooper
Meter rat wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 9:47 am Hello Steve. Welcome to the forum from Scotland. Walked a lot on the Long Mynd. Starting with a Challenger? Welcome to a world of misery, :D :D despondency, and financial ruin. They do look cool though, especially fully up armoured.
Sounds just like the world of 1/35 armour modelling!! I once rebuilt a toy grade Star Wars Star Destroyer, complete with lights…. 150 metres of 0.5 mm fibre optic and 10 hrs of rescribing. and I was happy….anything else is easy after that!

Really looking forward to this has a hobby ( blame ‘Mr Tank A Lot RC Channel’ on YT for piquing my interest)

Cheers

Steve

Re: Big hello from Shropshire!

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:23 pm
by Trooper
ColemanCollector wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:24 pm Welcome from Ontario, Canada! So I'm thinking your tank will be pretty accurate, having lived in one and all!
If you're ever in Oshawa, Ontario, (just outside Toronto) stop by the Ontario Regiment Museum. They have a running Chieftain and they'd probably take you out for a spin--or let you overhaul the engine! It was running a bit sickly this summer.
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Mike.

Oh the memories…. I can actually hear and smell that photo. A Mk11 I believe in the Berlin Brigade colours. My Regt didn’t get stillbrew, we went straight to Challenger 1 as I was leaving the army….

Thanks for the info on the museum, if I’m ever in your neck of the woods I’ll pop in, think I still remember how to drive em :haha:

Re: Big hello from Shropshire!

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 9:41 pm
by Herr Dr. Professor
:eh: Uh-oh: you have to explain stillbrew for this Yankee, please. It would be great if you could drive a Chieftain again. Maybe someday someone near you will have the moola to restore one.

Re: Big hello from Shropshire!

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 2:48 pm
by Trooper
Herr Dr. Professor wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 9:41 pm :eh: Uh-oh: you have to explain stillbrew for this Yankee, please. It would be great if you could drive a Chieftain again. Maybe someday someone :) near you will have the moola to restore one.
Stillbrew or Stillbrew Crew Protection Package (SCPP) was add on composite armour added to Chieftain from the mid 1980’s until We changed completely to Challenger 1…. If you look closely at the frontal area of Chieftains without Stillbrew it’s noticeably ‘slimmer’ that a Stillbrew Chieftain. Any chieftain fitted with it became the Mk11 ( with extra embellishments to the fire control systems etc). Basically it was a stopgap and just made Chieftain even slower!

There is a Chieftain near me, purchased by a farmer and left on a hill, it’s completely overgrown with undergrowth! A real crying shame for such an iconic piece of military history….. :'(

Re: Big hello from Shropshire!

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:22 pm
by Herr Dr. Professor
Thank you for the explanation of the "Stillbrew Crew Protection Package. I was so fixed on food and drink that I didn't think to check in:

Dunstan, Simon. The Chieftain Tank. Military Vehicles/Fotofax. Arms and Armor Press, 1989. ISBN 0-85368-894-X.
Griffen, Robert. Chieftain Main Battle Tank: Development and Active Service from Prototype to Mk. 11. Photoshiper 0007. Kagero, 2013. ISBN 978-83-62878-52-9.
Haynes/The Tank Museum. Chieftain: Main Battle Tank 1966 to Present. Owner's Work Shop Manual. Haynes. 2016. ISBN 978 1 78521 059 4.

Re: Big hello from Shropshire!

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 8:34 pm
by tankme
Trooper wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 2:48 pm
Herr Dr. Professor wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 9:41 pm :eh: Uh-oh: you have to explain stillbrew for this Yankee, please. It would be great if you could drive a Chieftain again. Maybe someday someone :) near you will have the moola to restore one.
Stillbrew or Stillbrew Crew Protection Package (SCPP) was add on composite armour added to Chieftain from the mid 1980’s until We changed completely to Challenger 1…. If you look closely at the frontal area of Chieftains without Stillbrew it’s noticeably ‘slimmer’ that a Stillbrew Chieftain. Any chieftain fitted with it became the Mk11 ( with extra embellishments to the fire control systems etc). Basically it was a stopgap and just made Chieftain even slower!

There is a Chieftain near me, purchased by a farmer and left on a hill, it’s completely overgrown with undergrowth! A real crying shame for such an iconic piece of military history….. :'(
Offer to purchase it from him...make it a daily driver to work... :) I can see the traffic here in Austin as my Chieftain rolls down the road...people screaming, cars scattering...man that would be FUN. LOL @)