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Re: Jeeps and scale

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:46 am
by ausf
Like I said, wheelbase and your ability to remove the drive train is the most important, so yeah, measure the axles width from hub to hub.

Keep in mind, it was an extraordinary amount of work to convert, every bit of suspension reworked, springs cut, drive shaft rebuilt in two different lengths, the backing plates for the hubs had to be made of brass and I think just the nuts and lugs were around $50 by the time it was all said and done.

There are much cheaper ways to go. I looked quickly at the Horizon crawler you posted, anything from them is great in my book, but you'll want to confirm that you can use a different battery. The ones I bought came with the 4.8, but also could take a 2 cell lipo which is essential in my mind (and you know I don't love lipos) for the extra time and power.

My Kubel can climb a 45 degree plank, so it can handle a host of surfaces (Didn't go 4WD with the Schwimm since I was concentrating more on it's water stability).

If you're just looking to drive around on packed dirt, I'd stick with less expensive routes. In the end, the Kubel probably has $400-500 in it. I scored the OOP Tamiya for under $100, but in the donor car, parts, LED lighting, figure animation, batteries, etc. added up.

Re: Jeeps and scale

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 1:25 am
by Max-U52
The sound module is awesome, Wibbs, and I think I'm gonna have to have one. Have you used that unit before, and if so, in what? Is it safe to assume you can change the sound files fairly easily? Bang good is where I got the tiny camera I want to use for the Panther, in the IR attachment along with the laser pointer. I don't remember who posted those laser pointers, but they're great. Cheap, too. 10 of them for under 5 bucks delivered. Anyway, would you happen to have any video of anything with that sound system in it?

Those trucks look really good, and good price, too, but they're just a bit narrow, by about 7mm. I may be able to compensate that, so I'll have to investigate further, as well as with the rock crawler I posted the link for.


Jeff, that's phenomenal work on your Kubel, and I think I'll have to do mine now. You got a good price, I paid $150 for mine, plus 50 more for shipping. It was here in a week from Japan, though. As for the Jeep, it's a fairly heavy piece, at 661 grams, so I might want to go 4 wheel drive, but 2 wheel will do if it turns out to be a lot cheaper. I really love the way you did your wheels, and I think the Jeep will take that adaptation fairly well. You already know I have access to a machine shop, so that will help quite a bit. I've also been looking at the way the axles are attached in the crawlers and they have a much more sophisticated suspension than the simple leaf springs they used in actual Jeeps. I'm thinking about trying to make leaf springs and then use the axles from the crawler, and in that case 4WD might even be easier as the steering is mostly taken care of. I see you have trailing arms in yours, so are there springs under there? And what about the front? Is it sprung at all? I don't think I've seen video of your Kubel, but if it runs half as good as the Kettenkrad it will be very cool.

Jeff, did you happen to see that little movie I made? I was thinking I'd really like to do something with the TC and I'm wondering if you're doing anything for the Tiger like you did for the Tammy Sherman, and if you could make one arm move? Wow. I don't want much, do I? @)

Still lots and lots to do.

Re: Jeeps and scale

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 2:18 am
by ausf
I used coil springs from the crawler. The crawler kit comes with so many ball and socket pivots, control arms, u joints, that you can really do whatever you need.

I only have this old video, it's gone through a lot more cosmetic stuff since and the driver has changed a bit (and there's a Rommel type in the back now).


Re: Jeeps and scale

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 3:06 am
by Max-U52
So you used something like this for the kubel? Does this seem like a decent price?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/172121018732?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT

Re: Jeeps and scale

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 3:20 am
by Max-U52
Today I got to thinking that before this jeep arrived in the mail I'd never really had a good close look at one, and I thought maybe others would like to see one as well, so I shot a short video to give a good look at this jeep. For those of you that haven't seen one yet, there are some things that you don't see in the still photos, like how the rear seat folds up. The detail on these things is really amazing.


Re: Jeeps and scale

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:43 am
by wibblywobbly
I have had a Benedini and these Banggood sound boards next to each other, they are absolutely identical. The sounds are exactly the same as the Benedini. The added bonus is that the Banggood one is prefitted with the pins that take the usb programming plug, which makes it a lot easier to change the sound files.

They are great for rc trucks as they come with the V8 sound preloaded. People are also buying them for tanks, they can be hooked up to tank systems and tank sounds loaded. So if for instance you had a Darkith board you could easily have high quality engine sounds for very little money, and still have full IR functionality.

Rob

Re: Jeeps and scale

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:39 pm
by ausf
Max-U52 wrote:So you used something like this for the kubel? Does this seem like a decent price?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/172121018732?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT
Thats the exact one I used, sorry, I thought you knew that. That's Horizon's sell price for new, which you can find cheaper at a host of other places, especially using promos. You should be able to find it for $125 or so. It's a great deal for all you get, the bearings and hubs are probably worth half that alone.


Beautiful thing is, every single part is available separately, so if you need a replacement, it's easy to find.

One of these days I'll sell off the bodies/wheels and chassis as a box of spares since they were untouched.

Re: Jeeps and scale

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:07 pm
by Max-U52
ausf wrote: One of these days I'll sell off the bodies/wheels and chassis as a box of spares since they were untouched.
Oooo, yeah, RC yard sales are the coolest!! 8) :haha: :thumbup:

OK, thank you very, very much for the advice and tips, Jeff. I think I'm formulating a new plan. I think I'll do the Kubel first, since it's been done before by someone I know and trust, and that will greatly sharpen my skills for the Jeep project. I think that's going to be just a bit more challenging for me, due to the space differences. The Kubel has that nice large area under the back deck to hide stuff. I know, i can fake something like a crate or tarp in the jeep, but still ...

Now I have to add those photos of yours to the project folder. I still have so much to learn about using this computer it ain't even funny. Can ya dig it? :haha:

Re: Jeeps and scale

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:09 pm
by Max-U52
Rob, you've convinced me. Have you seen anyone add one of these to a Torro halftrack? I have two of those that would be much cooler with engine sounds, and they're already wired with a speaker for the quad .50 sounds.

Re: Jeeps and scale

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 3:00 am
by HBailey330
Ive seen people on other forums make pass thru axles on those mini crawler axles so they can make 6x6 trucks