Authentic Rust

[FreakyDude]

i paint my rust with water colors from Cotman. I usually just use burnt Sienna but you can mix it up for any color variation you want.
Squeeze a bit out of the tube into an aspirin bottle cap, put in plain old tap water at a rate of at least 20 or 30 to 1. I usually stir small quantities of paint until i have a very strong mixture that resembles Tea.
I wash the areas on the tank I want rust on and wait for the water to dry. you will have to mix the paints until you get the color you want but keep it very weak. if done right the water evaporates leaving the water color to be sprayed with a flat finish. This also works well for pooling mud spots on hoods and flat areas.

I'll post a pic when i pick up my camera.

[FreakyDude]

pic from the phone, best i can do.

[971wright]

Hi I use real rust ,I scrape it of metal that has gone rusty ,get the powder in a small tray,add water and paint it on,first coat gives it light rust,if you go over it ,it gets darker ,the more times you do it the deeper it goes.

regards pete

[madmonk25]

how do you seal it on then

[FreakyDude]

after the water wash you can use hairspray, dullcote, johnson's wax whatever you normally use to seal your paint.
Personally I use dullcote because there are few if any decals on my tanks so I don't have to worry about ruining them.

as a note here sometimes i spray dullcote on in a heavier patch let it sit for a couple seconds then i use my brush and drag the water stain down. the dullcote softens the paint and you get a real nifty effect by doing that. it really looks like water ran down as there are no sharp edges. try it on a painted scrap of plastic card.

[971wright]

Hi Leave it uncoated and it keeps rusting get more rusty,which is what I do .

regards pete

[hotte8487]

Hi all,

I think there are many ways to create authentic rust on models and it’s also a question of believing.
Before I started first, I've searched in Internet for reports on tank model painting, aging and weathering. In many forums I have found inspiration and have then the best solution for me selected (quality, outlay and price).

Important for me is for which vehicle and for which components I’ll make rust. Especially in late war (German) vehicles were not so old to put a lot of rust, in addition they were in use before failure. A tread bracket loses its color in daily use, but is not equal rusted completely.
The most components have light rust and rust runners, but some parts can also have strong rust.

I use different methods.

One possibility is using the real rust sets (my is from AFV-Model, here's link:
http://www.afv-model.com/4711shop/produ ... 25-ml.html). Simple to use, paint first component a) and after 24 hours drying you can paint component b), then it will form rust over the part.

For light patches of rust I use sepia wash of Vallejo, for stronger rust like on old exhaust pipes I use oil paints in conjunction with pastel chalk. In this way I can very well represent the pockmarked surface of rust. Thereafter I let it good dry and then fix it with matt varnish.

For rust runners I also use oil paint. Mix a good rust colour from oil paints and make at each point from where rust runners will be come a little drop on the model.
Use a small brush with thinner and wipe it so long in running direction until only a slight tinge of oil paint is to see. Let it good dry.

And don't forget, less is more!

[frantz70]

Rust on a model of a knocked out tank sitting in a french farmers field for a year or two, ok.

Rust on an operational tank, not gonna happen even where paint is missing because boots and hands constantly rub those parts shinny and therefor is rarely seen on daily used heavy equipment.

Model more dirt and mud not rust.

[hotte8487]

Hi frantz70,

in principle you are right, but also a car that is driven daily, is at least at exhaust rusted.
And, it's still a question of believing and personal taste.

[FreakyDude]

If it is metal and it is outside it rusts. The degree of rust and it's appearance is a personal thing as much as anything is in the modeling world.

Rust on a model of a knocked out tank sitting in a french farmers field for a year or two, ok.

Rust on an operational tank, not gonna happen even where paint is missing because boots and hands constantly rub those parts shinny and therefor is rarely seen on daily used heavy equipment.

Model more dirt and mud not rust.