Wittman Tiger question

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Hey Panzerman you like too look at this thread ,it,s not yet finished but may help you.....
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http://www.rctankwarfare.co.uk/forums/v ... =22&t=6242" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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If it's a late Tiger you need to zimmerit. I would go with milliput. Pattern on turret differs slightly from hull but that is nitpicking.Ridges on turret are thicker and flatter. I think the pattern if about 7mm wide in 1/16 scale,(CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG).
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Hey thanks folks all good stuff, I am grateful.
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Hi Guys,
I know that there are a few photographs in existance of the knocked out Tiger 1 in the position that Wittmann abandoned it in the centre of the village.
There are also people who specialise in looking at the outlines of camouflage paint and of the damage on vehicles and so they can 'Match-up' head on and 3/4 view photos with the relevant tank when photographed from the side...if you see what I mean. So surely someone has done this with the Tiger 1 used in Villers-Bocage......I have a few photos of Tigers, including Michaels so I will see what I have or if I can find a definative answer on the net. :~
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Hi Guys,
These are some of the 'People who look at photos and then ID tanks from the camo and damage etc..
http://www.network54.com/Forum/47207/th ... +Number---" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It looks like the answer is ....Probably Wittmann was in ...212...and NOT in 222....People all assume that because Wittmann took over 'Sowas' Panzer that it had to be 222 but this is not supported in the records......Read the thread and decide for yourself....at the end of the day its your Tiger so make it how you would like....it is very rare to have a Tiger that has been photographed from all sides so that you can see all the contours in the paint, all the battle damage and all the modifications that the crew have done. I have only seen 1 set.
It will be a fitting tribute to the Great Man and you will know whos Tiger 1 it is meant to be, and that is all that really matters.
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Won other thing not mentioned,Tamiya has a 1/35 scale tool for zimmerite. It's like a small wheel that has the blades spaced evenly.Roll it across the flat zimmerite and the lines are perfect. I have not seen one for 1/16 just 1/35.

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Apparently, if you can find one with the correct teeth spacings, a pinion gear will produce excellent results.
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Thanks for the headsup pm Dietrich and thank you to everybody else,
very interesting, by the looks of things a lot of people have looked
long and hard at this, well done to all!

Based on what I have read I will model my Wittmann Tiger as 212.
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It will be a fitting tribute to the Great Man
About opening a can of worms but I cannot understand peoples fascination with this one tank commander. He wasn't one of the higher accredited Panzer aces and didn't carry out anything particularly noteworthy. Especially not Villers-Bocage and most of his "score" can be attributed to having a superior tank like most of the other Tiger commanders.

I am not saying he was a general tank commander because the original Tiger commanders were drawn from already skilled tank crew, judging by the million and one Whitmanns in World of Tanks I suspect he is simply the most popular name.

As for Tigers used, I was under the impression they didn't have the same tank but essentially just used what was available considering the large amount of time Tigers spent in field maintenance workshops!
It is never just "one" tank!
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The reason Wittman (pronounced Vitmann) has gone down in the history books is because he became a 'legend'. There is a theory that some of the figures attributed to him may not be entirely correct. One has to remember that the propoganda machine was well oiled by the Reich and that having someone like him whose name could be brought up as an example of how efficient the army was, was something that the Reich used to full effect.

He was well decorated, his name was all over the place, and if you like he was the tank commander equivalent of the Red Baron. Yes, he had an excellent crew, he had a brilliant strategic mind, and he worked his way to the top of the tree. However, he was also an ardent supporter of government policy and that alone ensured his success.

The Allied forces were fully aware of who he was, and how much of a threat he posed. Bear in mind that the Tiger 1 was a fearsome tank, and that if they were known to be in an area then word went around very quickly. Until the arrival of the Firefly the Tigers were pretty much impregnable, and unstoppable.

The combination of an elite tank and an elite commander, with a crew that worked exceptionally well together was something that earned respect amongst the allies. Hence the name stuck. Bobby Woll was given his own tank before the end of the war, and it was he who developed the skill to hit a target whilst moving, something that was incredibly difficult, he could also predict Wittmans commands and sight a target before he was asked to do so. It was the team in the tank that produced the results, rather than just Wittman.

The final crew now rest together in a grave in the German War Cemetary in Normandy, and of the thousands of graves in there, theirs is the only one that has become a shrine, with tributes from both German and Allied visitors.
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