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Re: Dunkelgelb
If the OP can get Tamiya rattlecans in their area TS-3 Dark Yellow is probably the easiest option with some XF-60 for touching up.
If that isn't an option I would say use whatever they can find. I know there is a lot of discussion amongst modellers about the most accurate Dark Yellow and everyone has their preference, but I've never seen any other colour change so wildly in varying lighting conditions. Thats before you get into the effects different primer/undercoats have, and then how weathering/shading/dirt/grime will alter it further. I have 3 tanks in Dark Yellow that were all painted using Tamiya TS-3 and all three look different from each other under identical lighting.
I've my memory serves in the war actual Dark Yellow varied in colour at different time periods depending on what pigments were available anyway, so there isn't really a single definitive "yes this is the most accurate version of Dark Yellow".
That being said if its at all an option seriously consider investing in an airbrush. Vallejo air paints are fantastic and they do a really nice Dark Yellow.
If that isn't an option I would say use whatever they can find. I know there is a lot of discussion amongst modellers about the most accurate Dark Yellow and everyone has their preference, but I've never seen any other colour change so wildly in varying lighting conditions. Thats before you get into the effects different primer/undercoats have, and then how weathering/shading/dirt/grime will alter it further. I have 3 tanks in Dark Yellow that were all painted using Tamiya TS-3 and all three look different from each other under identical lighting.
I've my memory serves in the war actual Dark Yellow varied in colour at different time periods depending on what pigments were available anyway, so there isn't really a single definitive "yes this is the most accurate version of Dark Yellow".
That being said if its at all an option seriously consider investing in an airbrush. Vallejo air paints are fantastic and they do a really nice Dark Yellow.
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Re: Dunkelgelb
Only place it's banned is Canada. Yep been a nanny state for decades regardless of which branch of the uniparty is in chargeColemanCollector wrote: ↑Thu Nov 13, 2025 7:21 pm The hazard ingredient in the Tamiya sprays was banned in Canada in 2010. Probably didn't pop up on Environment Canada's radar until 2023-24 when Tamiya paint was then not allowed for import. I think it was a Harper nanny state back then...![]()
Mike.
Must be for the Warhammer crowd.
The shade looks pretty close to what I am shooting for. I have sprayed it on some Evergreen sheets and looks good. I think a very thin dark wash would get it to where I want it to be as opposed to TS-3 which has always seemed too dark and green to me.
https://acrylicosvallejo.com/en/product ... esh-28022/
Re: Dunkelgelb
Here is a good explanation of RAL 7028 Dunkelgelb as it currently doesn't exist in RAL paint code-
"Wartime RAL 7028, or Dunkelgelb (dark yellow), is no longer part of the modern RAL color system and doesn't have a direct, modern equivalent because the original wartime formula is not in production. Today, it is recreated by hobby paint manufacturers for scale models and historical restorations. The original color varied in appearance and was replaced in 1944 with a slightly darker, greyer version for camouflage purposes.
What it was
Original purpose: RAL 7028 was introduced in February 1943 as the standard base color for German military vehicles.
Color appearance: The color was not uniform; it ranged from a light beige to a sand tone with subtle green or olive hues.
Later variation: In October 1944, a new version called Dunkelgelb RAL 7028, Ausgabe 1944 was introduced because the original color was less effective in Central Europe. This new version was darker and slightly more greenish.
Post-war status: The original wartime colors, including RAL 7028, were dropped from the official RAL color standard after the war during a process of reformulating the system.
What it is now
Modern availability: You can find modern reproductions of RAL 7028 through various companies that make paints for scale modeling and historical vehicle restoration.
Inconsistent shades: Due to the variation in the original wartime color and the fact that no direct equivalent exists, model paint manufacturers have created their own versions, leading to different interpretations of what the color looked like. "
That being said I shared this because I went to my trusty Cross-link paint site that I had Very good experience sourcing RAL 8000 for one of my Tiger builds. RAL 8000 for those that don't know is the base color of Tiger 131 at Bovington. It was the base color for the "Tropen" camouflage Tiger tanks in Africa as well as the Eastern front for a time.
So I went looking at their RAL chart and sure enough RAL 7028 Dunkelgelb does not exist anymore But RAL8000 still does. They also have loads of other RAL colors that can be ordered in many different forms. At the time I was using spray paint cans exclusively and they will make up and ship however many cans you like.
Here is the RAL chart they have and will mix and send the paint to you in multiple different applications.
https://www.crosslinkpaints.com/RAL-Pai ... y-Can.html
AND they also offer color swatches so you can actually see the color in person as opposed to just guessing at it online.
Here are "touch up" options that they offer-
https://www.crosslinkpaints.com/ral-mat ... ndard.html
And this is what I chose for the RAL 8000 last time-
https://www.crosslinkpaints.com/RAL-Pai ... y-Can.html
Now that doesn't solve the OP's dilemma but does offer more options. Just be aware that this is industrial paint and MUST be sprayed outdoors. It has quite an offensive odor but is extremely durable but should be sprayed in misting coats as the can is under much more pressure than I've experienced before And their nozzle is also the best I've come across for quick complete coverage. And I share this all because it's no designed for modeling purposes. It's designed for touching up industrial equipment in factories or maybe even real tanks... So it'll dump out a LOT of paint quickly if you're not careful obscuring to smothering small details. Just make sure to let it gas out before bringing it indoors and be sure to let it properly fully cure, easy 3-5 days. 7+ days is even better.
"Wartime RAL 7028, or Dunkelgelb (dark yellow), is no longer part of the modern RAL color system and doesn't have a direct, modern equivalent because the original wartime formula is not in production. Today, it is recreated by hobby paint manufacturers for scale models and historical restorations. The original color varied in appearance and was replaced in 1944 with a slightly darker, greyer version for camouflage purposes.
What it was
Original purpose: RAL 7028 was introduced in February 1943 as the standard base color for German military vehicles.
Color appearance: The color was not uniform; it ranged from a light beige to a sand tone with subtle green or olive hues.
Later variation: In October 1944, a new version called Dunkelgelb RAL 7028, Ausgabe 1944 was introduced because the original color was less effective in Central Europe. This new version was darker and slightly more greenish.
Post-war status: The original wartime colors, including RAL 7028, were dropped from the official RAL color standard after the war during a process of reformulating the system.
What it is now
Modern availability: You can find modern reproductions of RAL 7028 through various companies that make paints for scale modeling and historical vehicle restoration.
Inconsistent shades: Due to the variation in the original wartime color and the fact that no direct equivalent exists, model paint manufacturers have created their own versions, leading to different interpretations of what the color looked like. "
That being said I shared this because I went to my trusty Cross-link paint site that I had Very good experience sourcing RAL 8000 for one of my Tiger builds. RAL 8000 for those that don't know is the base color of Tiger 131 at Bovington. It was the base color for the "Tropen" camouflage Tiger tanks in Africa as well as the Eastern front for a time.
So I went looking at their RAL chart and sure enough RAL 7028 Dunkelgelb does not exist anymore But RAL8000 still does. They also have loads of other RAL colors that can be ordered in many different forms. At the time I was using spray paint cans exclusively and they will make up and ship however many cans you like.
Here is the RAL chart they have and will mix and send the paint to you in multiple different applications.
https://www.crosslinkpaints.com/RAL-Pai ... y-Can.html
AND they also offer color swatches so you can actually see the color in person as opposed to just guessing at it online.
Here are "touch up" options that they offer-
https://www.crosslinkpaints.com/ral-mat ... ndard.html
And this is what I chose for the RAL 8000 last time-
https://www.crosslinkpaints.com/RAL-Pai ... y-Can.html
Now that doesn't solve the OP's dilemma but does offer more options. Just be aware that this is industrial paint and MUST be sprayed outdoors. It has quite an offensive odor but is extremely durable but should be sprayed in misting coats as the can is under much more pressure than I've experienced before And their nozzle is also the best I've come across for quick complete coverage. And I share this all because it's no designed for modeling purposes. It's designed for touching up industrial equipment in factories or maybe even real tanks... So it'll dump out a LOT of paint quickly if you're not careful obscuring to smothering small details. Just make sure to let it gas out before bringing it indoors and be sure to let it properly fully cure, easy 3-5 days. 7+ days is even better.
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Re: Dunkelgelb
I ordered RAL 1002 Sand Yellow from Crosslink to try on my 1/10th Jagdtiger as a substitute for Dunkelgelb. https://www.crosslinkpaints.com/RAL1002 ... Plate.html
Looked like a really good match to me. Now I have to get brave enough to bust out the new HVLP gun to paint it.
Looked like a really good match to me. Now I have to get brave enough to bust out the new HVLP gun to paint it.
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Re: Dunkelgelb
I have not heard of anyone using an HVLP sprayer for a model. Interesting!
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Re: Dunkelgelb
Having done a 1/16 JT with rattle cans I can definitely see using an HVLP sprayer on a 1/10 scale versionHerr Dr. Professor wrote: ↑Sun Nov 16, 2025 2:53 pm I have not heard of anyone using an HVLP sprayer for a model. Interesting!
Re: Dunkelgelb
It one of the small Harbor Freight 4oz capacity touch up type sprayer. And yeah, for something as big as a Jagdtiger in 1/10 or a vehicle in 1/6th, it is much easier and quicker than an airbrush. Also wanted to use in on the huge bridge I printed. It's like 8ft long and has a driving area that's like 15" wide.Herr Dr. Professor wrote: ↑Sun Nov 16, 2025 2:53 pm I have not heard of anyone using an HVLP sprayer for a model. Interesting!
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Re: Dunkelgelb
Tried Fosco. They don't ship to the States.
Tried Crosslink. Shipping was double the cost of the paint.
I'll go to my nearby hobby shop and see what they have.
Thanks to for the info and the history lesson of my new favorite color.
Tried Crosslink. Shipping was double the cost of the paint.
I'll go to my nearby hobby shop and see what they have.
Thanks to for the info and the history lesson of my new favorite color.
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Re: Dunkelgelb
Just a thought, probably a bit stupid but,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I know there are those stores that will scan a color swatch and mix paint to match. Near me in the UK is such a store and they can even sell you the paint in a can or put it in a rattle can. In the USA O’Reilly’s autoparts offer such a service.
This not just wall paint but paint to touch up cars etc, I was in there one day and a lady was having a rattle can of white paint mixed specially to touch up a washing machine.
It would probably be gloss but nothing a last coat of Matt varnish wouldn’t solve.
Find a shade of Dunkelgelb you are happy with, paint a bit on a piece of card, get said firm to scan it and mix you up some paint in a rattle can. Or am I being a bit stupid
I know there are those stores that will scan a color swatch and mix paint to match. Near me in the UK is such a store and they can even sell you the paint in a can or put it in a rattle can. In the USA O’Reilly’s autoparts offer such a service.
This not just wall paint but paint to touch up cars etc, I was in there one day and a lady was having a rattle can of white paint mixed specially to touch up a washing machine.
It would probably be gloss but nothing a last coat of Matt varnish wouldn’t solve.
Find a shade of Dunkelgelb you are happy with, paint a bit on a piece of card, get said firm to scan it and mix you up some paint in a rattle can. Or am I being a bit stupid
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Re: Dunkelgelb
I think thats a good idea either they can or cant do it so worth a try 
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