Trumpeter/Taigen T34/76 Mod 1942 with Applique Armor

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Trumpeter/Taigen T34/76 Mod 1942 with Applique Armor

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I started this project quite some time ago. This project isn't to be confused with the T34E (shielded) tank I plan on building, but hasn't been started yet. I picked up a Trumpeter T34/76 1942 kit REALLY cheap on Ebay as it had been partial built and never finished. I decided to make something cool (or at least I thought it was cool) out of it which is why the applique armor was added to it. I found some actual pics of T34/76 tanks with this exact armor arrangement so it is based on actual use. There was a ton of variations in the way the applique armor was applied so it may not be 100% accurate, but well within the realm of possibility for time period. I used the Trumpeter upper hull because the Trumpeter T34/76 turret seemed to work better on the Trumpeter upper. I tried to mate it to a HL/Taigen upper, but there was too much play in the turret ring for me.

So far I got the hull mated to the Taigen lower. Since the upper on the Trumpeter 1/16 kit is not as thick as the Taigen T34/85 upper I glued some polystyrene on the inside to give it some additional structure. Then I built some magnet holders to attach to the upper hull and mated them to magnets on the lower hull to attach the Trumpeter upper and Taigen lower.

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There was a space on the back of the hull that had some side to side play when the upper was mated to the lower. The tabs I built fill that space and remove any slop from mating the two different parts.

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There are a few things I always do to my T34 Taigen hulls to ensure they don't give me any trouble down the road. I typically disassemble the entire hull when I get them. I fill the rear drive shaft housings with Miliput to basically make them solid to limit any stresses put on the plastic shaft housing the drive shaft bearings. Overkill? Probably.

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I also never liked the way that Taigen mounts the metal axles to the hull so it's slightly reworked. The little protrusion on the suspension arm is ground off as all it does is ride on plastic. I replace the undersized M3 washer with an Imperial #6 glued to the hull in its place. That way there is no metal on plastic action...only metal on metal when the suspension moves. Necessary? Nope, but I do it anyway. Just have to make sure you don't overtighten the suspension screws to the hull or they will either strip or put too much pressure on the arms causing them to bind.

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I also glue the metal tub to the plastic sides as it helps reduce some of the hull flex, but there isn't really that much flex in the Taigen T34 hull to begin with. Makes me "feel" better doing this. :)

The add-on armor plate on the front gave the front upper hull some additional structure.

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Originally the Taigen hull I used had metal wheels on it. I used them originally just for testing purposes as they were replaced with the plastic kit wheels after my hull mods. I used the solid early wheels that come with the Trumpeter kit and converted them to use bearings. This was the first attempt at converting the static wheels so my process has evolved to use flanged bearings, but at the time I hadn't thought of that yet. These wheels were converted using non-flanged bearings. I took the bare kit wheels and sandwiched a bearing between the two halves of the wheels. I had to grind down the hub a little to get to work. I took up the bearing diameter difference by using some sheet styrene wrapped around the bearing basically. It all works, but it's not as easy as the newer method. There is also a bearing used on the outside of the wheel.

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To avoid having a plastic on metal situation on the wheels, I have another #6 washer glued to the inner wheel that mates up with the metal suspension arm. This how the wheels turned out after the conversion:

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This is basically how she sits today. You still have to wait to see the recoil setup as I'm not done with it yet.

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Turret rotation, elevation, and recoil in the next update...
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Re: Trumpeter/Taigen T34/76 Mod 1942 with Applique Armor

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For my T34/76 '43 model, which has the same turret but with several smaller hatches, l managed to carefully cram in the original turret contents of the Taigen 85 turret. It required a bit of trimming of the large square recoil / elevation unit and then building a custom mechanical interface with the modified Trumpeter barrel fixings but by reducing the length of the lifting arm/slot and recoil interface it just fitted in. I had to fabricate a cradle for the wiring below the turret and completely reorganise the hull contents so as to allow the turret to rotate without tangling with mfus etc but it can be done.

I just hope l don't ever need to get inside the turret again to effect a repair! All that said, there's a lot to be said for hobby grade servos ;)
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General Jumbo01 wrote:For my T34/76 '43 model, which has the same turret but with several smaller hatches, l managed to carefully cram in the original turret contents of the Taigen 85 turret. It required a bit of trimming of the large square recoil / elevation unit and then building a custom mechanical interface with the modified Trumpeter barrel fixings but by reducing the length of the lifting arm/slot and recoil interface it just fitted in. I had to fabricate a cradle for the wiring below the turret and completely reorganise the hull contents so as to allow the turret to rotate without tangling with mfus etc but it can be done.

I just hope l don't ever need to get inside the turret again to effect a repair! All that said, there's a lot to be said for hobby grade servos ;)
The way Trumpeter designed the turret there isn't much choice on how it goes together. The 1943 model turret can have magnets holding it together, but this version is pretty sealed up. I will be able to do some maintenance on it once it's done, but the screws/nuts holding the mantlet on are probably on there for good... :)
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Best of luck then!!
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Love it, the small turret '76 is by far the best looking of the T-series.
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HERMAN BIX wrote:Love it, the small turret '76 is by far the best looking of the T-series.
I would agree. I also have the "Micky Mouse" ear 1943 version in the works, but that turret has a lot more space in it to work with.
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Been playing around with my recoil idea. Had it hooked up to a servo tester and seems to work pretty well so I'm gonna go ahead with it.

This is the basic mechanism outside of the turret:

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Here is it mocked up on the inside of the turret (some of the pics are of the Micky Mouse turret as it's easier to see how it mounts because that turret is in two pieces) The barrel sleeve that came with the metal 76mm barrels is glued to the inside of the mantlet. The barrel hole had to be reamed out a little to get the aluminum barrels to fit and move smoothly:

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The aluminum angle slips right into the mantlet and will be held in with glue or filled with Miliput to hold it:

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As for the turret rotation, I've gotten both of them installed for the 1942 and the 1943 versions. I first needed to remove all the bolt detail on the bottom of the turret ring to have a smooth surface to glue to. I then glued a piece of styrene to the bottom of the turret race area. I had to add some extra styrene around the ring to give it some more height and position the turret gear in the right place. I used the plastic turret gear as the metal one was slightly smaller in diameter so it shifted around. The plastic one fit much better.

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I also removed all the detail stuff along the bottom of the turret to get a smooth gluing surface to create a mounting surface for the turret/turret ring mating. The standoffs used to connect the turret to the gear are M4x15mm.

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See my bench does get cluttered when I work...

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I did have to remove some material from the underside of the turret also to get the gear to sit just right:

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At this point I'm building both the 1942 and the 1943 kits as most of the process is the same.
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Great project and reference for Trumpeter modification.
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So the twins got a little love tonight. The model 1943 got it's new speaker enclosure built. I had ordered some 4mm ABS sheet for another project so I decided to use some of it to build a speaker enclosure as I ordered extra. I'm using the sides of the T-34 hull as the sides of the speaker box and the suspension towers as forward bracing. Being built between the hull it also serves to stiffen up the lower. The speaker grill is 3D printed from a free file on Thingverse. The speaker will still be removable for maintenance.

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I lined the bottom of both of them with velcro to hold all the components in place. Makes it really easy to replace components or maintain the tanks. Each is getting a Clark TK50SP. I will be building another bridge across the front of the 1943 version to hold the volume and power switch under the driver's hatch. The 2S2P Li-Ion batteries I use fit nicely under the bridge and add some weight to the front of tanks to balance out the weight of the motors. There are some differences between them as I had originally planned and started installing an OpenPanzer TCB until I changed my mind to install the Clarks. I feel like Jnewboy building multiples of the same tank... :D Here they are as they sit today:

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That's all for now...
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Damn, they're nice :thumbup:
Can you get me an expose of the battery you use please mate.
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