Dasmikro (TBS Benedini clone)

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Postby c.rainford73 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:08 pm

Rad that is such an amazing deal. Such a simple and straightforward upgrade for next to nothing wow :thumbup: Is it possible to do a side by side comparison of the sounds?
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Postby Rad_Schuhart » Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:59 pm

c.rainford73 wrote:Rad that is such an amazing deal. Such a simple and straightforward upgrade for next to nothing wow :thumbup: Is it possible to do a side by side comparison of the sounds?


Hi Carl, yep I think I could do a comparison video. I just need to scratch some time.

But anyway, It depends of the amp you install. The one I installed has an output of 3W. So if you plug a decent speaker with a decent box, is more than enough to blow your ears, it is really loud. I think the old heng long speakers were 0.3w, and the Tamiyas are around 4W. Somebody correct me if I am wrong.

But yeah, definitelly for me, the amp I installed is more than enough. I am using the board in a P-40 warbird, so the main problem is the lack of space to fit a decent speaker, but anyway the sound has improved quite a lot.

The installation was super easy. In the first two pins, is the audio input, so you have to put a couple of wires from the output of the dasmikro (where the speaker was) to there.
The 3rd and 4th pins, were the voltage in. I had the glorious idea to connect it to the receiver, to the bing plug, and it worked perfectly. Maybe for better speakers and bigger amps you have to plug this to a battery, (be carefull with the maximum voltage admited by the amp!) but in my case works flawlessly.
The 5th and 6th pins is where I just soldered a couple of pins, and then plugged the speaker.

Other modules might vary, but it should be more or less the same.

Hope it helps.
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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:53 pm

Hi, Rad
I don't know how I missed this quite educational thread first time around. Subsequent updates I missed in 2018, as I was otherwise engaged for much of last year. However, it's never too late to say 'thanks!' for starting it :thumbup: Benedini products do look very promising. More importantly, they sound impressive.
I think Jussek was enthusing about them, and the Beier cards, a couple of years ago, and posted videos of his units in action. :think:
With the news that tank electronics will be deprived of the TCB option in future, it's important to know what else is out there. Thanks again! I like your stoic determination to drive the hobby forward. :thumbup:
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Postby Rad_Schuhart » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:30 am

:{ Thank you very much, answers like yours encourages me to keep writting things like this.

IMHO I found most of the people in forums focus in building the tanks/trucks, painting, weathering and making the tanks look ultra realistic... But then people just forgets (or dont want to mess with) the electronics part. In my opinion the electronic part is as important or even more than the painting part.

So sometimes writting and updating tutorials is a bit discouraging when nobody shows any interest (like my radio mods thread) viewtopic.php?f=81&t=24954 But if only one guy appreciates the job, then all the time spent is well worth. So thanks for your kind words, it motivates me a lot. :thumbup:

Really, thank you very much.
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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:27 am

Rad_Schuhart wrote:IMHO I found most of the people in forums focus in building the tanks/trucks, painting, weathering and making the tanks look ultra realistic... But then people just forgets (or dont want to mess with) the electronics part. In my opinion the electronic part is as important or even more than the painting part.

I read your threads, and I'll admit, when you talk about the electronic side, a lot of it goes over my head. As I believe it does for many others. And you're right, a lot of people don't feel confident enough to mess with the electronics for fear of damaging it. But they still read what you write.
I personally didn't feel I needed to learn about aftermarket boards, but now I'm purchasing them, I'm glad that someone like you has taken the time and trouble to write about such things. And I can always go back and re read them.
You can tell by the viewing count, 5665 as I write this, that many people have taken an interest in what you have written, and sadly it's only a handful of members that make appreciative comments to useful information submitted, and they're stretched thinly over the whole forum.
So, never lose heart Rad, your input is appreciated :thumbup:
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Postby Will01Capri » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:23 pm

you have encouraged me to give it a go, so i will try it out and see how i go.
Maybe have to read more into sound changes, but it definitely help the vehicles i working on have that extra dimension to enjoy
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Postby jarndice » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:34 pm

I echo every word that Mick has written, :thumbup:
Because we don't have the same grasp of the subject that you obviously have we are reluctant as grown ups to embarrass ourselves by asking what we fear are questions a child of 4 would know the answer too,
So we wait for you to touch upon the subject and solve our problem and we still keep our street cred, :haha:
Don't stop with your explanations we would be lost without them.
If I or the balance of the Forum have been sparing in the well deserved praise for your hard work then I am glad to offer my belated apologies. :clap:
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Postby Rad_Schuhart » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:02 pm

Hi everybody, thanks for your nice words and of course no need to apologyze, lol.

And Shawn, never be afraid of asking anything! Asking is a great way to learn. I keep asking everywhere too.
I did not study anything related with electronics or radio control. Heck, I even did not know how to handle a soldering iron some years ago, so compiling info here, there, asking to everybody, and experimenting myself is the way I managed to learn all this stuff.

I just want to encourage people to start experimenting and bringing true life to their models!
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Postby jimbo_wa » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:33 pm

Just another voice to add - Thank You!

I'm better at the electrics than the modelling, so your post are invaluable.

Here's stoopid-q #1: Are you actually using these boards in tanks or just trucks/planes?

I've tried to find tank sounds for the DasMicro, but due to the copyright 'infringement' I can understand why they are no longer available.

Stoopid-q #2: It's a standard FTDI programmer if I read correctly?

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Postby Rad_Schuhart » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:12 pm

Hi James,

Due to the boards are not only sounds but lights and smoke capable, I am using them everywhere, and I have infinite plans for them. Ringing the bell in a church, fireplace in a house, working machine guns here and there... Limit is your imagination... And the sound memory, of course, lol.

I have been using one in a Panzer III. It was more an experiment than other thing. It was a Heng Long Panzer III, with and old rx18 with chrystals, working with a RC5HL adaptor, and then this micro board. I had fun with it for a while. Unless using it with the open panzer board, I think there are better and easier alternatives out there, so for tanks I "discard" it. But for other gadjets is the hell of fun. Lifesaver in small toys like the truck. Im planning to use one in the SDKFZ 222 if it sees the light someday...

Regarding the tank sounds, thanks to a forum member here I got all the tank sounds from Benedini. If you want them, send me a PM and I will try to send you a .zip file with all of them.

And yes, is a standard FTDI programmer that you can buy for one euro free shipping straight from china. Just be sure to use 3.3v. It should work with 5v, but is better to prevent than to cure...
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Postby Will01Capri » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:40 pm

Rad_Schuhart wrote:Hi James,

Due to the boards are not only sounds but lights and smoke capable, I am using them everywhere, and I have infinite plans for them. Ringing the bell in a church, fireplace in a house, working machine guns here and there... Limit is your imagination... And the sound memory, of course, lol.

I have been using one in a Panzer III. It was more an experiment than other thing. It was a Heng Long Panzer III, with and old rx18 with chrystals, working with a RC5HL adaptor, and then this micro board. I had fun with it for a while. Unless using it with the open panzer board, I think there are better and easier alternatives out there, so for tanks I "discard" it. But for other gadjets is the hell of fun. Lifesaver in small toys like the truck. Im planning to use one in the SDKFZ 222 if it sees the light someday...

Regarding the tank sounds, thanks to a forum member here I got all the tank sounds from Benedini. If you want them, send me a PM and I will try to send you a .zip file with all of them.

And yes, is a standard FTDI programmer that you can buy for one euro free shipping straight from china. Just be sure to use 3.3v. It should work with 5v, but is better to prevent than to cure...


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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:57 pm

Got them here.
DC 3V-5V 3.7V 8002 3W Mono Micro Audio Power Amplifier Board AB Sound Amp Module | eBay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-3V-5V-3-7V- ... ition=1000

Sorry, never bought from this seller.
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Postby Rad_Schuhart » Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:03 pm

Lol, yep, It seems the Amps I got are gone, or at least more expensive now. I paid one euro for 4 of them.

But this should work too:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2PCS-2- ... d7dc52f-35

You are getting 5 of them for a pound. Not bad, isnt it?
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Postby jimbo_wa » Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:08 pm

Cheers - found a two pack on Ailexpress as well!

30-60 days before they show up... :)
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Postby MISHA 55 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:32 pm

Добрый вечер. Привет из Беларуси. Купил для танка модуль Dasmikro и есть в наличии кабель програматор от TBS Mini Benedini на 4 пина . Как их сростить? Спасибо за помощь.

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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:35 pm

MISHA 55 wrote:Good evening. Hi from Belarus. I bought a Dasmikro module for the tank and there is a cable programmer from TBS Mini Benedini for 4 pins. How to grow them? thanks for the help.
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Postby Rad_Schuhart » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:58 pm

MISHA 55 wrote:Добрый вечер. Привет из Беларуси. Купил для танка модуль Dasmikro и есть в наличии кабель програматор от TBS Mini Benedini на 4 пина . Как их сростить? Спасибо за помощь.



Hi mate, it is complicated to help you if I dont know what cable are you using and from where you got it... Anyway, in the first pages of the tutorial there is a diagram that shows how to connect the wires. This should be pretty universal... But dont forget to install the drivers in the computer too!
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Postby MISHA 55 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:30 pm

Доброго времени суток. Хочу использовать кабель-програматор купленный вместе с TBS Mini у Бенедини. В интернете говорят что этим кабелем можно програмировать Das Mikro. Но никто дельного не посоветовал. В электронике я ------0. Да, забыл сказать.TBS Mini стоит у меня в танке Т-44. С помощью этого кабеля был запрограмирован звуковой модуль. Работает нормально. P.S. Неудается вставить фото. 1.9 МВ. Меньше файл телефон не делает. как быть?

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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:55 pm

MISHA 55 wrote:Good day. I want to use the cable programmer purchased with TBS Mini from Benedini. On the Internet they say that this cable can be programmed Das Mikro. But no one advised. In electronics, I ------ 0. Yes, I forgot to say. TBS Mini is in my T-44 tank. The sound module was programmed using this cable. Works fine. P.S. Unable to insert a photo. 1.9 MB. Smaller file phone does not. how to be?
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