Weathering pigments

[deathrawt]

I have a question to those who have used the pigments to weather their tanks. I bought some MIG pigments to muddy up my late tiger and I used pigment fixer to "fix" the pigments. It was to my understanding from what I have read and seen on videos that after you fix the pigments they are permanently stuck to the surface. When I did my tiger the pigments are stuck but if you touch them they just rub off? They are not hard either they are soft to the touch. Is there a way to make it so they won't rub off the tank? On a static model it would be fine but this isn't going to work for an rc tank

[HERMAN BIX]

I used a diluted white glue on the area first, then dabbed on the pigment. Once the pigment soaked up the glue and went dry, it looked right and was like plaster.
Took a bit of experimenting with how much glue is needed and when to re apply but the result was spot on.
(Kreig Schwein STuG )

[deathrawt]

Thanks Herman, I will have to try that next time

[billpe]

I've tried acrylic pigment fixer and turps, premixed in with the pigment. The former bonds with the paint underneath and the latter doesn't but leaves you with a dust effect. I more recently mixed pigments with either AK or Mig earth effects which is enamel based so you can manipulate afterwards.

It's messy but I usually apply with an old tooth brush, rubbing a finger along and flicking it off. That way you get splashes which are random and you can also layer it. I think there's some pics of the effect in my 502 Tiger thread from 2014.

Really how you stick it to the model and what with is to gain an effect. I think Herman's works better for a wet mud look.

[Cruciblesteel]

Are the pigments the same as artists pastels? What we did at art school was to spray with hair spray and this would fix the pastels

[blimp]

Are the pigments the same as artists pastels? What we did at art school was to spray with hair spray and this would fix the pastels

Do you mean the 'poster paint' pigments that were mixed with water ? I remember those - I have tried grinding up artist pastels (sticks) but some have a wax base in them that repels fixative - p.s. Hairspray comes off easily with water , I'd use an enamel based matt coat instead . B .

[Cruciblesteel]

You've been buying oil pastels ! hairspray will fix it to the touch and so it can be handled if you want it waterproof use what blimp says