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Re: Value
If you're buying from Torro direct, you might be paying 100 more for the wooden crate they come in. In the US, we buy Torro and no wooden crate. My KV-2 and King Tiger are both Torro tanks and did not come with the crate.dr.mark wrote:Is a £350 Torro so much better than a £250 Taigen and that so much better than a £110 H-L?
I'm new to this, about to buy my first 1:16 and am a little bedazzled so help please.
I had four King Tigers. Tamiya, Torro Taigen, and HL. I sold the HL because I got tired of the problems. The Taigen and Torro have been great, the Tamiya, outstanding. The Taigen gave me a little problem with throwing it's tracks until I installed the HennTec idler system.
Joe
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Re: Value
Hi, Is that dr or Doctor ?
First welcome to the Forum and a happy New Year, where are you in the world? I figure as you are using £ as your unit of currency you are somewhere in the UK.
As to value, Joe makes a valid point about the TORRO Box, I do not think it is worth as much as a £100 but it is useful.
You have to ask what you plan to do with your Tank? Will you be driving it straight from its delivery or are you planning to upgrade it ? If the plan is upgrades then the cheapest "Smoke & Sound" Heng Long would be my choice but if you want an all singing all dancing ready to run Tank then the Metal hull TAIGEN would get my money.
The most important question is none of the above BUT who are you buying from ?
I urge you to read the "BLACKLIST" before you spend a brass farthing, there are some well known names there,
AVOID!!
Go instead to the recommended dealer list. both
http://www.welshdragonmodels.co.uk
and
Forgebear on E-BAY are utterly trustworthy and both are dealers in TAIGEN Tanks and spares, Dave on Forgebear can also be found on
theallertons@fsmail.net
and both Steve at welsh dragon and Dave are members of this Forum so easy to contact and very aware of both sides of the Hobby.
shaun
First welcome to the Forum and a happy New Year, where are you in the world? I figure as you are using £ as your unit of currency you are somewhere in the UK.
As to value, Joe makes a valid point about the TORRO Box, I do not think it is worth as much as a £100 but it is useful.
You have to ask what you plan to do with your Tank? Will you be driving it straight from its delivery or are you planning to upgrade it ? If the plan is upgrades then the cheapest "Smoke & Sound" Heng Long would be my choice but if you want an all singing all dancing ready to run Tank then the Metal hull TAIGEN would get my money.
The most important question is none of the above BUT who are you buying from ?
I urge you to read the "BLACKLIST" before you spend a brass farthing, there are some well known names there,
AVOID!!
Go instead to the recommended dealer list. both
http://www.welshdragonmodels.co.uk
and
Forgebear on E-BAY are utterly trustworthy and both are dealers in TAIGEN Tanks and spares, Dave on Forgebear can also be found on
theallertons@fsmail.net
and both Steve at welsh dragon and Dave are members of this Forum so easy to contact and very aware of both sides of the Hobby.
shaun
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Re: Value
dr.mark wrote:Is a £350 Torro so much better than a £250 Taigen and that so much better than a £110 H-L?
I'm new to this, about to buy my first 1:16 and am a little bedazzled so help please.
Hi Mark, and welcome. Just what tank are you thinking about getting? I just finished a video especially for guys like you that are about to buy their first tank. Would you like to preview it for me and see if you find it helpful? If yes, I'll send you a link in a private message. It will take a few hours to upload.
Gary
When FDR coined the phrase "The Arsenal of Democracy", he was talking about Detroit. Proud to live in the 2nd most violent city in America!!
Re: Value
I really appreciate you replies. A 1:16 tiger 1 will be my first modern R/C tank.
Although I'm well used to R/C - I run planes,helicopters and locos the only tank I have is a 25 year old model of a Sherman.
I have the funds to buy any of the tanks, but always go for value for money. I run a 370Z rather than a Porsche for example.
Doing my R/C tank research is proving to be both fascinating and infuriating atthe sametime.
e.g. when vendor says its a Taigen - but might come badged as a Torro!!
Any more advice welcomed - I'll let you know how I get on. I'd consider a well specced pre owned tank.
Dr.Mark
Suffolk
UK
Although I'm well used to R/C - I run planes,helicopters and locos the only tank I have is a 25 year old model of a Sherman.
I have the funds to buy any of the tanks, but always go for value for money. I run a 370Z rather than a Porsche for example.
Doing my R/C tank research is proving to be both fascinating and infuriating atthe sametime.
e.g. when vendor says its a Taigen - but might come badged as a Torro!!
Any more advice welcomed - I'll let you know how I get on. I'd consider a well specced pre owned tank.
Dr.Mark
Suffolk
UK
Re: Value
dr. mark, If you are about to buy a new tank and want a 1:16 Tiger 1, I'd suggest you this:

price 1: USD460 (empty tank)
price 2: USD660 (RTR tank)

price 1: USD460 (empty tank)
price 2: USD660 (RTR tank)
H/L Pantiger, H/L Leopard 2A6, Mato Panzer III, Hybrid Tiger 1 and some tank wreckage
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Re: Value
Looks good, but trying to track it down by just a price without a manufacturer is a little tricky. I assume it is all metal, but who makes it?SteelBird wrote:dr. mark, If you are about to buy a new tank and want a 1:16 Tiger 1, I'd suggest you this:
price 1: USD460 (empty tank)
price 2: USD660 (RTR tank)
Richard
Tamiya Tiger 1, Taigen FlakPanzer IV,Torro M16 half-track, Tamiya Panther,WSN/Torro T34,Taigen M41 Bulldog,H/l/Taigen Sherman M4A3,H/L T90, Haya M3 Grant, Metal Origins 234/2 Puma, Nashorn by Alwyn. I was only going to have one tank - honest!
Tamiya Tiger 1, Taigen FlakPanzer IV,Torro M16 half-track, Tamiya Panther,WSN/Torro T34,Taigen M41 Bulldog,H/l/Taigen Sherman M4A3,H/L T90, Haya M3 Grant, Metal Origins 234/2 Puma, Nashorn by Alwyn. I was only going to have one tank - honest!

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Re: Value
Hi
As the others have said Both Dave @ Forgebear and steve @ welshdragon are good suppliers and very friendly to talk to.
Also if they are near to you why not visit one of the clubs on their meet days and you can then see and try the various tanks before making your mind up.
If you visit the Events / Days out section you will see when the meet days are and where. I think there is a club being set up just south of London, or our club at Grantham, Lincolnshire and also the club in Bristol.
I love scratchbuilding and modifying and personally have 3 Tamiya's and 10 HL's of various models they all have there little niggles in my case the HL RX-18 radio's (although since uprating to2.4ghz) the HL niggles have gone and the Tamiya's being heavy with relative short running time, (all though it could be my batteries are getting long in the tooth
) but it is every man to himself and I wish you every sense of enjoyment and welcome to our hobby.
Denzil
As the others have said Both Dave @ Forgebear and steve @ welshdragon are good suppliers and very friendly to talk to.
Also if they are near to you why not visit one of the clubs on their meet days and you can then see and try the various tanks before making your mind up.
If you visit the Events / Days out section you will see when the meet days are and where. I think there is a club being set up just south of London, or our club at Grantham, Lincolnshire and also the club in Bristol.
I love scratchbuilding and modifying and personally have 3 Tamiya's and 10 HL's of various models they all have there little niggles in my case the HL RX-18 radio's (although since uprating to2.4ghz) the HL niggles have gone and the Tamiya's being heavy with relative short running time, (all though it could be my batteries are getting long in the tooth

Denzil
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Re: Value
Yeah, I forgot about that; it's from Mato and it's a all metal. I saw it on taobao.com and contacted the seller. Unfortunately, he doesn't ship outside China, and, I'm not going to buy this anyway because I'd like to try assembling some basic Tiger first before shifting to more advanced models.silversurfer1947 wrote: Looks good, but trying to track it down by just a price without a manufacturer is a little tricky. I assume it is all metal, but who makes it?
H/L Pantiger, H/L Leopard 2A6, Mato Panzer III, Hybrid Tiger 1 and some tank wreckage
Re: Value
Torro and Taigen are pretty close to being the same thing...(if you get the metal versions)....The HL is a totally different animal ..As mentioned Packaging is different Torro being the exception with it's wooden Crate ...Taigen and HL both have foam and cardboard
All run great....and as mentioned...really depends on what you are going to do with it...if you like personalizing with little bits and things...a little modification...the HL is the friendliest....The Torro and the Taigen are pretty much good to go right out of the box...maybe a little paint work to make either your own
That's pretty much it in a Nutshell
Good Luck with your choice
ALPHA
All run great....and as mentioned...really depends on what you are going to do with it...if you like personalizing with little bits and things...a little modification...the HL is the friendliest....The Torro and the Taigen are pretty much good to go right out of the box...maybe a little paint work to make either your own

That's pretty much it in a Nutshell

Good Luck with your choice

ALPHA