Masking For Hard Edge Camo Schemes

[ALPHA]

Neither are water based as you seemed to suggest.....

You stating that as fact???????????

What does chemical composition have to do with painting hard lines????

ALPHA

[ALPHA]

What this convo is leading to seems to be void of the question inquired...as always...it seems that those who cannot do...will persist it cannot be done.. BULL KA KA...because hard lines are done with brush techniques everyday by many Master Craftsmen ..Alot of these craftsmen keep their techniques secret...so just Googling info will prove nothing...what is written is generally ........general

Bottom line ...it takes practice to develop a technique....So practice that instead of practicing skepticism

ALPHA

[jarndice]

I have had a varied career, I remember standing in a transport company yard watching an old signwriter painting the name and address of the company on the door of a new truck, He stood up and took a pace backwards to both admire and check his work, one of the girls from the office walked past and said "Their is a "C" in Manchester"
There was a "C" in Salford that morning, He said a very rude word.
You need a steady hand to be a signwriter but literacy also has it's place! shaun

[tomhugill]

I have had a varied career, I remember standing in a transport company yard watching an old signwriter painting the name and address of the company on the door of a new truck, He stood up and took a pace backwards to both admire and check his work, one of the girls from the office walked past and said "Their is a "C" in Manchester"
There was a "C" in Salford that morning, He said a very rude word.
You need a steady hand to be a signwriter but literacy also has it's place! shaun

That's brilliant!

[ALPHA]

I have had a varied career, I remember standing in a transport company yard watching an old signwriter painting the name and address of the company on the door of a new truck, He stood up and took a pace backwards to both admire and check his work, one of the girls from the office walked past and said "Their is a "C" in Manchester"
There was a "C" in Salford that morning, He said a very rude word.
You need a steady hand to be a signwriter but literacy also has it's place! shaun

That's brilliant!

There is also RE ...in THERE (noun: directional reference) Their (noun: Possessive)

Literary expertise ....I think not



ALPHA

PS.Great test Good story WO2c Proves some people read and interpret what they want to and how "Brilliance" is in the eye of the beholder

[jackalope]

And I remember what my models looked like when I was a kid too! JUNK! I've been building models for almost 40 years and have built every type there is and painting with a brush no matter what paint or brushes you'll wind up with brush strokes.

Yes pin stripers do use free hand to do their work and don't retrace what they have done and yes they use brushes. However their brushes are not like what we use, the bristles are up to several inches long and yes they do leave brush strokes! I've worked at custom car shops and have dealt with pin stripers in person and have watched them for hours, very steady hands, usually an older guy as it takes YEARS of practice to get to the point of being a professional. But like I said you can tell it was done by hand with a brush which is part of the appeal. Years ago a tool came out that lays the paint on in pin stripes without using a brush and to put even a master pin stripper and it side by side the difference is most noticeable.

[ALPHA]

And I remember what my models looked like when I was a kid too! JUNK! I've been building models for almost 40 years and have built every type there is and painting with a brush no matter what paint or brushes you'll wind up with brush strokes.

I dunno Jack...mine where hit and miss for sure....the misses ended up in fireworks displays ...the hits brought ribbons and trophies...then a firework display

Yes pin stripers do use free hand to do their work and don't retrace what they have done and yes they use brushes. However their brushes are not like what we use, the bristles are up to several inches long and yes they do leave brush strokes! I've worked at custom car shops and have dealt with pin stripers in person and have watched them for hours, very steady hands, usually an older guy as it takes YEARS of practice to get to the point of being a professional. But like I said you can tell it was done by hand with a brush which is part of the appeal. Years ago a tool came out that lays the paint on in pin stripes without using a brush and to put even a master pin stripper and it side by side the difference is most noticeable.

Yup...there's a lesson there...use a good brush...develop your technique...with practice ...you can get good result ...dedicated practice....excellence ...did any of those pinstripers tell you that sometimes their "seen" strokes...are sometimes like their trademarks? It's true....one Pro can tell another Pro's work just by looking at trace marks left behind...almost like reading the Hamon on Katanas


Carpe Diem Jack

ALPHA

PS.Funny you mention that tool...I had one lol...like you say..it was totally useless ..especially when making curves and fine points

[billpe]

What this convo is leading to seems to be void of the question inquired...as always...it seems that those who cannot do...will persist it cannot be done.. BULL KA KA...because hard lines are done with brush techniques everyday by many Master Craftsmen ..Alot of these craftsmen keep their techniques secret...so just Googling info will prove nothing...what is written is generally ........general

Bottom line ...it takes practice to develop a technique....So practice that instead of practicing skepticism

ALPHA

No, you have some guys saying Tamiya acrylics is a shitty paint to use with a brush when painting a 1:16 tank, and one guy waffling on about a bunch of stuff that is completely unrelated to the question in hand. Or are we going for the Lipo Mk2 thread?

[ALPHA]

Happy tanking Bill

ALPHA

[Jnewboy]

I just read all of this thread, some funny bits and a few good points and jabs made by all but remember old chaps the bloody Germans got desperate towards the end and its easy to forget exactly what we are modeling. These paint jobs were mostly done at haste with paint that had been thinned to cover more area and made from second rate materials.

Therefore when airbrushing camo there SHOULD be inconsistent depth of color due to some of the pattern being skipped when the painter went back over it. Brush painting SHOULD have tiny streaks to scale with a 4" paint brush used in the field. If we are going for realism these minuet details are swallowed up anyway under the weathering but do add to the overall look of a model. Personally, I would say the only thing a person could do to really ruin a German camo job and any camo job for that matter is to put the paint on too thick either with a brush or airbrush.