PZ 3 wheel removal and electronics???

[mickyb]

Hi  Guys,

The modifications begin on my PZ3 with metal gearbox and tracks......

I have just recieved an upgraded suspension springset for my PZ3 as the stock set is really weak and regularly bottoms out. Has anyone taken the wheels off the suspension arms without damaging anything?. If so, how do you split the wheels to get at the screw fixings please?

I posted a message the other day about electronics.......more of my thoughts on cheaper over the counter options:

The Action Electronics mixers are readily available and proven......sadly the sound module that I wanted to use was manufactured by a  company called JJC Electronics; I just found out that this year they ceased to trade. I find it hard to believe that with all the cars, trucks, boats, warships. building site vehicles, tanks etc, that no one makes a sound module..... they would clean up wouldnt they?

I have been trawling the net for options on sound modules. Groupner do a diesel engine, machine gun and main naval gun but I'm not sure that the output is compatible with the sound mixer input mentioned above....so I cannot find one with start up etc.....back to the drawing board.

I was asked what gear I was looking at to use in a scratch built Challenger 2... well I was hoping to use a mixer for the drive motors.... Groupner more torquey upgrade motors on 3:1 ratio HL gearboxes, Sail servo with continual rotation for the turret( from my spares box) Small servo for the cannon ... or stock turret gear with recoil....all this is low current drain gear that I already use on my boats and there are lots of options of each item....some really cheap too

While messing about I blew my main board (no longer a tank virgin eh?) and have just recieved a HL RX18 multifunction unit..... anyone using one of these yet....before I muck this one up too!!!

I would love to find an amplifier to boost the present sound card,output....and loose the awful backwards jump on cannon fire....any views?

Any meets planned for Essex ish area??......rite, I'm off to BB the tortoise before he hybernates.....payback for a serious humping he gave the PZ during the week while I was having a cuppa......if I posted the foto I would get banned from here, so use your immagination of yet another humiliation of the teutonic ferrous heap.

Have a good weekend guys...............Mike

[Matdragon]

you can post it if you really want!! LOL ... we wont ban you!!! would have to show my mate the tortoise beating up a tank LOL!!

cheers,

Matt

[Norse]

Hi  Guys,

The modifications begin on my PZ3 with metal gearbox and tracks......

I have just recieved an upgraded suspension springset for my PZ3 as the stock set is really weak and regularly bottoms out. Has anyone taken the wheels off the suspension arms without damaging anything?. If so, how do you split the wheels to get at the screw fixings please?

I posted a message the other day about electronics.......more of my thoughts on cheaper over the counter options:

The Action Electronics mixers are readily available and proven......sadly the sound module that I wanted to use was manufactured by a  company called JJC Electronics; I just found out that this year they ceased to trade. I find it hard to believe that with all the cars, trucks, boats, warships. building site vehicles, tanks etc, that no one makes a sound module..... they would clean up wouldnt they?

I have been trawling the net for options on sound modules. Groupner do a diesel engine, machine gun and main naval gun but I'm not sure that the output is compatible with the sound mixer input mentioned above....so I cannot find one with start up etc.....back to the drawing board.

I was asked what gear I was looking at to use in a scratch built Challenger 2... well I was hoping to use a mixer for the drive motors.... Groupner more torquey upgrade motors on 3:1 ratio HL gearboxes, Sail servo with continual rotation for the turret( from my spares box) Small servo for the cannon ... or stock turret gear with recoil....all this is low current drain gear that I already use on my boats and there are lots of options of each item....some really cheap too

While messing about I blew my main board (no longer a tank virgin eh?) and have just recieved a HL RX18 multifunction unit..... anyone using one of these yet....before I muck this one up too!!!

I would love to find an amplifier to boost the present sound card,output....and loose the awful backwards jump on cannon fire....any views?

Any meets planned for Essex ish area??......rite, I'm off to BB the tortoise before he hybernates.....payback for a serious humping he gave the PZ during the week while I was having a cuppa......if I posted the foto I would get banned from here, so use your immagination of yet another humiliation of the teutonic ferrous heap.

Have a good weekend guys...............Mike

Where did you get the RX18 from?

Also the RX18 is so far only in the Stug III that has the IR Battle system and such

[tankman]

Hi Mickyb about the Pzr III wheel removal you have to split each set of road wheels to access the screw that holds them to the swing arm.  Just hope the glue fairy has not been to generous    As to the RX18 I read on another forum that youcan disconnect the recoil ( to the tracks ) by unpluging 1 connector. I then asked what would happen if you put a resistor on the positive lead to drop the voltage output when the recoil was engaged. I was informed that it would reduce the savage track recoil to somthing more realistic depending on the resistor size. I am going to try this as soon as I get a HL Stug or Jagpanther . I think the post about the HL Stug was on the RC universe site just the other week and went into a fair bit of detail  on the technical aspects of the RX 18 board. If you do mangle your wheels getting them off drop me a PM as I do have spares ( wife let me spend my pocket money on a metal wheel upgrade for my Pzr III ) . All the best for now
Alan ( tankman )   ;D
PS where did you get the RX 18 board as it only just come out   Ifyou have the older RX 13 or 14 board then I don't think you can stop the recoil as it's hard wired to the board. Or so I have been told by those who know better.

[971wright]

hi tHere the easyest way to split the wheels is to use a flat screwdriver a th biggest you can get between the wheels and slowly twist and turn the wheel and repete keep this going till the wheel comes off then you have accsess to the screw which hoilds the inner wheel remove then you can see the screw which holds the suspension .


          regards pete

[mickyb]

Hi Guys,
Thanks for the info on removing PZ3 wheels, I will try this evening. Is it worth upgrading to metal suspension arms when I upgrade the springs?

I got the new RX 18 board from Tank Zone  and will have to find the post on RC Universe about the recoil mod that Alan has seen.

Strange train of events actually...... I was repairing a tank for a chap at work, and in conversation found that he bought a donor tank (complete but faulty) from Howes Models (near Oxford). So I gave them a call and found that they sold off faulty returned stock at reduced price. So I bought a Tiger I with smoke and sound but faulty transmitter for £50. It had metal gearbox and tracks but no battery or charger as they take them out on resale.

I thought that a complete tank with metal upgrade as worth the £50. When it arived, it had a working transmitter but no sound, it was perfect in every way and I didnt have the heart to rip it apart....so I foned Howes and asked for a main board and decided to make it a project....make a battle weary tank with dents, rust, cammo nets, a really rough old wardog.
Meanwhile the fault with my friends tank turned out to be a main board as well, so I put the one from Howes in it and fixed it....1 happy young lad now....my good deed for the week.

As I got my PZ3 from Tank Zone I decided to call the owner (Kin) and ask about a replacement board as well as the suspension spring upgrade for the PZ3. I said the faulty board was a version 14 and he just sent me the RX18 and said it would go straight in....cost about £20. Kin is really helpful and tells me he regularly goes to HL factory in China..... so maybe he is the one to ask about future models.

So the RX18 goes in the Tiger.... I read that I need to turn over the gun and mantle....and turn the pistol port to get the details rite.....do I literally remove the mantle and turn it over????

So what have we now....PZ3....Tiger.....Chally project.  Any recomendations for what my next tank shoud be?

Do you guys remove the air soft gun and put in recoil...... and where do I but a bigger shed cos this is getting out of hand and I have only been bitten by the tank bug for three weeks.

[fv432]

Hi guys the best way i have found for splitting road wheels is to spray the joint with WD40 and as pete says wiggle them apart with a screwdriver The WD40 seems to loosen the joint made with the glue and should stop any breakages if taken slowly enough and plenty of WD40

found this out whilst removing the wheels from my bulldog and so far havent broken one wheel

[Norse]

http://www.tankzone.co.uk/cart/hl_spares.htm at the top is the RX18  £22.95 with free postage

Also bought a WSN Tiger I today, its cables are all modular EXACTLY like the Stug/RX18 needs.

so i might get a RX18 and see if i can make it work in the WSN tiger (its a late edition) my HL is a Early

[fv432]

the WSN tigers use the same motor connectors so should fit a treat

any mods to the gearboxes on the WSN??
if your interested in going that far the tamtoys low profiles fit it the same as the T34

[Norse]

yea the connectors fit into a RX14 so they'd fit into a RX18

the WSN gearboxes seem ok, small motors but suitable.

Check http://rctankwarfare.exofire.net/Forums ... opic=131.0 so we dont take this thread off topic