Point of Reason

[ALPHA]

I can see your reasoning Gentlemen, but I offer but two excuses as an excuse for my tardiness ( more excuses to follow), I decided to make my own intake pipe clamps and not knowing what the originals looked like I used logic? I obtained the copper tube and the threaded brass then using scrap plate and a pin vise built a pair of working intake clamps, that was when I found a site on the web showing in detail the real thing, in the words of Master B Simpson DOH! So to excuse two, the HENG LONG TOWING PIN appears to be standard across the range of their Tanks, (a rod with a bar on top canted at 25 degrees) I made up my own in metal and pin viced a hole in the "handle" for a retaining chain, I yet again discovered another website that showed in detail a Tiger 1 pintle, it of course bore no resemblance to HENG LONG's product, into the scrap bin to make something more prototype, this saga continues as my knowledge and the availability of ever more detailed upgrades on the market thwart my progress to the finish line, ps just maybe, keeping out of the way might have something to do with it, after all just how many shelves does any house need? shaun

HMMMMMMMMMM changed stuff because you saw someone else do it on the web .............You know Shaun.... I really see only one excuse for both of the mods you did....you're weak ...not kidding man.... you're a soldier... and have been through the drill... peer pressure should never enter the equation .....If met with criticism ... What should be said in response is ...."Yeah ... I did it like that cause I can..and it's my tank"

I have no example to compare lol... you know me Shaun... unless something is totally obtuse.... peer pressure means nothing

ALPHA

[jarndice]

Dammit all man I havn't yet mastered walking on water, but it really was not following others, it was getting it right when checking the prototype, I am going to call it research, after all everyone else does, and anyway there are very few chances to watch the MCC defeat another nation in a test match (cricket dear boy). Test matches are scheduled to last five days and they take my undivided attention, now if you could leave me alone for a minute I am sure I can produce more excuses. Right at the beginning of my training I was told never prevaricate, make a decision, even if it is wrong! You must never allow indecision to get in the way (unsettles the men) There is never a Sergeant around when you need one! shaun

[ALPHA]

Dammit all man I havn't yet mastered walking on water, but it really was not following others, it was getting it right when checking the prototype, I am going to call it research, after all everyone else does, and anyway there are very few chances to watch the MCC defeat another nation in a test match (cricket dear boy). Test matches are scheduled to last five days and they take my undivided attention, now if you could leave me alone for a minute I am sure I can produce more excuses. Right at the beginning of my training I was told never prevaricate, make a decision, even if it is wrong! You must never allow indecision to get in the way (unsettles the men) There is never a Sergeant around when you need one! shaun

Well there is one thing that can be said about a well trained soldier .... you develop a different sense of humor... With that said... any Recon for any applied venture... should be done well ahead of a mission lol...that way less afterthought... and more forethought

You're a funny guy Shaun.. and a pretty good friend

ALPHA

[tomhugill]

As long as it takes till your happy with it! However if I've started painting I'll rarely go back to the building of it, unless it's really really obvious and I couldn't live with it like that.

Kind of glad you joined the convo Tom... you are one of those builders I think others should be inspired by...as you are able to get a high level of detail... as well as internal work done in a reasonable amount of time....I don't think I've watched one of your builds exceed three months...even when you get sidetracked with your other variants of the Hobby
I have a hunch you don't really set any timelines for yourself... but on the other hand .. still have a sense how things should progress during a build

I know what you mean about revisiting a build once it is painted...been there ....and like you say... won't change something unless I can't live with it ...again ...as an example my L70 again.... the maintenance hatch was initially made too small....according to diagrams... it should have extended a little further to the left...but it looked ok.... 24 hours changed that.... and I ground it out to correct it...the reason is exactly the reason you just stated... because later on down the line... it would still be noticeable .... and I don't think I would have been able to tolerate it... especially since the gun support would highlight how off it was
I fixed it ... and installed the gun support... but even after backtracking... think I can still complete the build within my personal guideline


ALPHA

I would say most have been under three months, even Norbert didn't take forever; mainly because they've tended to be my sole focus. There have been a couple (the panther F and the sturm tiger) where I did the initial work and then they had to wait till the inspiration struck to detail and properly finish them. More recently the m51 has been taking a while due to other hobbies (read boats and submarine) or through lack of motivation. The latter is hard to explain but I've always been the sort of person that will really get into something for a while and spend a lot of time and then put it down to come back to. Usually with tanks I'd get them done in the whirlwind of activity phase but as they've become more detailed and less out the box I don't always manage this.

[ALPHA]

I would say most have been under three months, even Norbert didn't take forever; mainly because they've tended to be my sole focus. There have been a couple (the panther F and the sturm tiger) where I did the initial work and then they had to wait till the inspiration struck to detail and properly finish them. More recently the m51 has been taking a while due to other hobbies (read boats and submarine) or through lack of motivation. The latter is hard to explain but I've always been the sort of person that will really get into something for a while and spend a lot of time and then put it down to come back to. Usually with tanks I'd get them done in the whirlwind of activity phase but as they've become more detailed and less out the box I don't always manage this.

Inspiration is an important factor.... especially when you get into a chain of builds...for me what kind of bogs down the process is the R&D...sometimes studying all the diagrams and photos....just wears on the mind...almost negating the build itself... sometimes taking the fun out of it...In my case it took a little bump by Fynsdad and his Excellent Panzer IV to get me moving again...the guy is just plain fast ...

Anyway yes ...there are a lot of factors that can affect the timeline of a build...and yes sometimes it does take a good dose of inspiration...I think we might both agree on is that the faster the build is done....the ultimate reward of seeing the model run in it's glory...is there to be enjoyed

ALPHA

[PainlessWolf]

Good Evening,
Around 90 days for the most involved work like 'Maxine' and then only because Life gets in the way of enjoying a Hobby every evening. Cosmetic redoes like 'In the Mood' can run from 30 days to whenever depending on the above mentioned and wait times for parts but usually around a month.
regards,
Painless

[scalawag]

Why does it matter as long as people are enjoying themselves.

[jarndice]

Paul MY HERO, I heard the sound of the 7th Cavalry coming over the hill and here you are with my excuse, of course you are right, it is not a competition. shaun

[ALPHA]

Good Evening,
Around 90 days for the most involved work like 'Maxine' and then only because Life gets in the way of enjoying a Hobby every evening. Cosmetic redoes like 'In the Mood' can run from 30 days to whenever depending on the above mentioned and wait times for parts but usually around a month.
regards,
Painless

Funny isn't it Painless.... for some reason... it just progresses like that for some .. not so much for others ...could it be the anticipation of seeing our creations run? Who could say...But I have to say ..it's one of the incentives that drives me

ALPHA

[ALPHA]

Why does it matter as long as people are enjoying themselves.

Paul MY HERO, I heard the sound of the 7th Cavalry coming over the hill and here you are with my excuse, of course you are right, it is not a competition. shaun

Not to worry ...this is not the Spanish inquisition ...So no lives are at stake .....I'm sure everyone has reasons for building how they do.... to me RC tanks are particularly difficult...as things must move and operate .... It just seems the general consensus is that a build... detailed and or from scratch
takes an average of 90 to 120 days
It is also obvious that fun is had during and after the process...I know I enjoy my builds after they are done...likewise during the process of building...it keeps the little grey cells churning ...like a calabash of little problem solving riddles ...the challenge

Is it the "Challenge" that prolongs a build? ....or make it more "fun"?

I guess that's something everyone has a personal answer for

ALPHA