I looked in the Tiger fix section and couldn't find it so I hope someone knows. Are the tracks on the Tiger different from side to side? Mine are both the same and I read in the REAL Tiger rebuild the tracks should be different from side to side, a mirror image of each other because of cant to the tracks would cause it to pull to one side OR possibly lead to throwing a track and this is EXACTLY what I'm dealing with! Both my tracks are the same so my tank always pulls to the right and the right track is the one I'm having nothing but problems with. I have ordered the metal with rubber tire early road wheels, metal suspension and metal idler wheels and I plan to order the metal lower hull by months end and wonder if I also need to order a set of tracks IF they truly should both be different.
HELP cause this is driving me nuts!
Please note if I can not get this damn thing fixed I plan to buy the full metal Tiger from Matomart and build it with my Heng Long electronics.
Tiger tracks?
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Re: Tiger tracks?
Hard to say from your post Jack...what makes you think you have two same side track?.....
you would be able to tell by looking at the tread
There is one big side and one not so big side on the link itself
thing is.... so long the spines are on the inside ...either should work for either side
Good Luck
ALPHA
you would be able to tell by looking at the tread
There is one big side and one not so big side on the link itself
thing is.... so long the spines are on the inside ...either should work for either side
Good Luck
ALPHA
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Hmmmmm. Ok so I guess they use the same track for both sides then. Thanks Alpha.
John thats the Tiger I was referring to, it says clearly in its build that the tracks should be a mirror image of each other and that one of the tracks on 131 must have been replaced some where along the line and that one of the tracks is incorrect on 131. Thats what I was talking about, thinking that maybe I also got a mistake. Sadly I guess I didn't, my only hope now is that the upgraded parts I ordered fixes the problem or I'll be buying a whole new tank.
John thats the Tiger I was referring to, it says clearly in its build that the tracks should be a mirror image of each other and that one of the tracks on 131 must have been replaced some where along the line and that one of the tracks is incorrect on 131. Thats what I was talking about, thinking that maybe I also got a mistake. Sadly I guess I didn't, my only hope now is that the upgraded parts I ordered fixes the problem or I'll be buying a whole new tank.
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Lets see if I can explain a little better... when your tracks are on your tank...the small end should be in the up position if you are looking at them from the front...from the back they should point down
So if you had the same tracks ... one side would point up and one side down viewing from the front or back...this is wrong
Hope that helps Jack
ALPHA
So if you had the same tracks ... one side would point up and one side down viewing from the front or back...this is wrong
Hope that helps Jack
ALPHA
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Hi jackalope,
From the reading I have done on the Tiger I the very very early production vehicles (approx. first 20 built) had left and right sided tracks, this was how the Tiger was designed and how the prototypes where also built.
In the field this proved to be a logistical nightmare as each tank would then need to carry 2 sets of spare track links, and additional spare links for both sides would need to be carried around by the maintenance crews as well. Also there was the extra cost involved if two types of track link needed to be produced. This all being because left sided links could not be used on right sided tracks and vice versa.
Very early on in production( by October 42) it was decided that only tracks for one side would be fitted (I think left side was chosen), and that the associated problems such as the tank pulling to one side etc. could be dealt with in the field by the drivers and crews. The advantage being that now only one type of track link needed to be produced and carried.
To the best of my knowledge there are no images of Tigers in Africa which show mirrored tracks. If any were produced with them, which is entirely possible as some of the Tigers sent to Africa were very early production machines, then they seem to have been changed prior to shipping to Africa.
My best guess would be that it either did not make sense to ship 2 types of track link to Africa as spares, or that by that time the production of mirrored links had ceased, and it was no longer a viable option due to lack of spares. I suspect the 131 restoration team are talking about how the tracks were originally designed rather than mirrored tracks having ever been fitted to 131. As far as I am aware it is not one of the first 20 Tigers built, its a bit later.
The mirrored tracks therefore seem to have only been used for a very short period of time.
On to our model tanks, and as far as I am aware, all Tiger Is available follow the non mirrored idea and all have identical tracks for both sides rather than tracks that are mirror images of one another. I am not aware of any manufacturer who produce 1/16 scale mirror image early tiger tracks. For the later tracks with added cleats one sided tracks are the only ones which would have been produced.
As to the problem you are having, do you have track tensioners/adjustable idlers fitted. These allow you to tension the tracks more finely than by just adding or removing links. I would recommend the Henntec version if you don't already have one. I have a plastic hulled tiger with the old asiatam tensioners which I am finding tend to slip, so I have just ordered a Henntec set for this tank. The Henntec also braces the back of the chassis making it more rigid. To be honest with you though after what I have spent on beefing up the plastic chassis I might as well have replaced it with a metal one. I have a metal one as well and that are excellent.
Hope this helps.
Paul
From the reading I have done on the Tiger I the very very early production vehicles (approx. first 20 built) had left and right sided tracks, this was how the Tiger was designed and how the prototypes where also built.
In the field this proved to be a logistical nightmare as each tank would then need to carry 2 sets of spare track links, and additional spare links for both sides would need to be carried around by the maintenance crews as well. Also there was the extra cost involved if two types of track link needed to be produced. This all being because left sided links could not be used on right sided tracks and vice versa.
Very early on in production( by October 42) it was decided that only tracks for one side would be fitted (I think left side was chosen), and that the associated problems such as the tank pulling to one side etc. could be dealt with in the field by the drivers and crews. The advantage being that now only one type of track link needed to be produced and carried.
To the best of my knowledge there are no images of Tigers in Africa which show mirrored tracks. If any were produced with them, which is entirely possible as some of the Tigers sent to Africa were very early production machines, then they seem to have been changed prior to shipping to Africa.
My best guess would be that it either did not make sense to ship 2 types of track link to Africa as spares, or that by that time the production of mirrored links had ceased, and it was no longer a viable option due to lack of spares. I suspect the 131 restoration team are talking about how the tracks were originally designed rather than mirrored tracks having ever been fitted to 131. As far as I am aware it is not one of the first 20 Tigers built, its a bit later.
The mirrored tracks therefore seem to have only been used for a very short period of time.
On to our model tanks, and as far as I am aware, all Tiger Is available follow the non mirrored idea and all have identical tracks for both sides rather than tracks that are mirror images of one another. I am not aware of any manufacturer who produce 1/16 scale mirror image early tiger tracks. For the later tracks with added cleats one sided tracks are the only ones which would have been produced.
As to the problem you are having, do you have track tensioners/adjustable idlers fitted. These allow you to tension the tracks more finely than by just adding or removing links. I would recommend the Henntec version if you don't already have one. I have a plastic hulled tiger with the old asiatam tensioners which I am finding tend to slip, so I have just ordered a Henntec set for this tank. The Henntec also braces the back of the chassis making it more rigid. To be honest with you though after what I have spent on beefing up the plastic chassis I might as well have replaced it with a metal one. I have a metal one as well and that are excellent.
Hope this helps.
Paul
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Re: Tiger tracks?
By the way Jack if it reassures you, Georg Henn (HENNTEC) is a member of this Forum. I should add that in my unworthy opinion the Henntec mod should be a standard fit on all 1/16 Tigers. shaun
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Ok guys thanks. Gonna wait for my parts to show up and see it they do the trick before I plan any further mods. I ordered the stuff Friday and it hasn't shipped yet, not sure what the hold up is think another email is in order.
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Hey Jack ... Mato takes about five days to process an order...so you will probably get your stuff next week sometimejackalope wrote:Ok guys thanks. Gonna wait for my parts to show up and see it they do the trick before I plan any further mods. I ordered the stuff Friday and it hasn't shipped yet, not sure what the hold up is think another email is in order.
Also if you are going to contact them...do it through your account. they aren't very good with emails
ALPHA
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Alpha, they've been really good with replies thru email that I've sent. My UPS tracking says my package has been picked up! YIPPY! Fingers crossed I see em by Saturday cause Sunday we go the park for the day and I'd love to take my Tiger with me.
