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Marc780
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Marc780 King Tiger Prt 10-Hull bracing/Tiger 1 Switch Mount

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The King Tiger is near completion as far as the working parts. When i started it was my first 1/16 R/c tank so I went the cheapskate route. Not knowing just how far I was going to go with this hobby at the time. It came with the TK01 board, no S and S and cost $145 with a discount. I had problems with the radio system almost immediately and after a short while it quit working completely.

I upgraded to the RX18 system and after buying all the parts I was still not happy with the erratic performance. I tried many tips and suggestions after asking here on the forum but nothing I tried seemed to make the tank work consistently. After much wasted money buying transmitters, receiver boards, wiring sets and so on I upgraded the radio system to the Heng long 2.4 Ghz. It was well worth it and if i were starting over, I'd just have thrown the tk-01 parts away and begun with this much better radio system. I also installed the 2.4 Ghz system into my Tiger 1, and very happy with its performance, which is excellent.

I am not happy with the paint job on the King Tiger. So I am going to start over and do it again. I even ordered a new gravity feed airbrush to do it with. Also zimmerit sheets are on the way so this is the ugly paint this tank is going to wear for a while longer.

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Mistakes i made on the paint, I used too light a shade of sand, i used "modern desert sand" from testors, which is far too light and pale. The different shades of yellow are from my attempts to "fix" using the correct shade, "sand gelb".

Moreover the best way to have done the paint, would be prime with grey primer, then airbrush the base yellow over the grey primer. Instead I used rattle can paint for the base yellow, and got solid coverage. This is just fine for painting an old bucket or some such but is not what I wanted for a scale tank. When painting over grey primer, a light coat of "sand gelb" applied by airbrush, not rattle can, allows the grey to show through a little bit. This method I used on my Tiger 1 and gives a much more pleasing scale appearance, and a much better base for the remaining green and brown portions of the camo scheme.

In the meantime I thought I would brace the hull a bit more. I added a second brace cut from 1/8" aluminum bar , on the top hull. The black portion you see is heat shrink, added to insulate the metal against loose or imperfect wiring that might touch the metal. The wiring mess needs to be neatened up a bit and i've even thought of adding a second fan, immediately under the grating for more air circulation. Probably this is just overkill. I want to add a brighter headlight, and a rear convoy light sometime too.

At the center, top of the rear hull, you can see where i glued the magnet to hold the hull on. Needs trimming of all that ugly glue.

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I decided to add some more bracing to the floor. I used square, hollow carbon fiber tubing and just glued it in place. Then applied more glue along the sides of the square tubing for a "weld". Looking at the photo it seems to me that since i've gone this far, I might as well add two more cross pieces to the "ladder" and call it done.
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I did some more modding to the Tiger 1...After installing the taigen hatches I figured out a way to mount the on off switch under the hatch.

http://www.rctankwarfare.co.uk/forums/v ... 38&t=13010

This is the mount i came up with. I really wanted something a bit more elegant but this one works great. It isn't pretty, but I don't think it looks too stupid at least. This switch mount is very solid and could not be simpler, or cheaper.

What you see is an old computer metal expansion slot cover. I ground out one end a bit so I could bolt it to the same screw as the brace. Then bent it and doubled it underneath, and secured the switch with glue. I used as little glue as possible in case i need to remove the switch and replace it...but if the switch goes bad and it is stuck tight because of the glue, a replacement mount is easy enough to find after all.

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tomhugill
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Re: Marc780 King Tiger Prt 10-Hull bracing/Tiger 1 Switch Mo

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Hi, could I suggest keeping all your tiger improvements in one thread? It will make it much easier for people to follow your good work!
Marc780
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Re: Marc780 King Tiger Prt 10-Hull bracing/Tiger 1 Switch Mo

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I guess you are right. It really would be better to post one under another. Instead of making numerous "logs" taking up page after page.
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Re: Marc780 King Tiger Prt 10-Hull bracing/Tiger 1 Switch Mo

Post by billpe »

If you're having trouble getting the 'correct' shade, its worth investigating some different yellows :). The yellow you'll see on all King Tigers - with a few notable exceptions of very late ones- is Dunkelgelb, a specific RAL (RAL is a German Colour system, old RAL colour charts and post war NATO RAL colour charts are different however!) colour. Testors do 'Panzer Dunkelgelb 1943' in their range however most of the major brands like Tamiya, Vallejo/Mig, Mig Ammo, Testors, Gunze, Humbrol and AK Interactive do their own versions of it. There is a good run down here of colours: http://www.panzerworld.com/german-armor-camouflage & http://stugiii.com/germanvehiclecamouflage.html. The richness of the colour can also be affected by the primer colour which was usually red oxide - unless you're Soviet, where they painted everything one shade of green. A bit like Ford in the 20's, you can have any colour you want, as long as its black.

Its obviously your tank and paint it how you're happy though but if you're struggling to find a yellow you're happy with I thought this would help ;)

BTW your metal expansion slot cover - never thought of that. I think an old drive bay could work as a hull brace with some work.
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Re: Marc780 King Tiger Prt 10-Hull bracing/Tiger 1 Switch Mo

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Thanks for the links bill, thought I'd seen every page on the net about them by now!
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