Opinions wanted - is this shade of "dunkelgelb" wrong?

[Marc780]

For an HE King tiger? I bought this spray paint from the Toy Soldier brand (UK) and that's what it's called, dunkelgelb". Looks more green to me then anything since it's supposed to be dark yellow. In the can it says "dunkelgelb late war". My question is it wrong? Every other KING tiger seems to have sand base paint. Even late war. And there's no way to tell from war time photos of course. Anyway should I just repaint the base in armor sand? And what brand and color paint should I get?

[tomhugill]

Tricky to say from your picture. You really need it under natural light. The vallejo duklegelb is quite greeny and as such I prefer the lighter more yellow tamiya colour. Neither is wrong though!

[Marc780]

Tricky to say from your picture. You really need it under natural light. The vallejo duklegelb is quite greeny and as such I prefer the lighter more yellow tamiya colour. Neither is wrong though!

Yes I was thinking the Tamiya myself...fortunately I only painted the lower hull so far. I have that huge can (full size) of the "toy soldier" paint and that big tank to do..guess I'll get two cans of tamiya. Is it their armor sand or some other color? It looks to me if you choose the wrong kind, like "sand-modern" it looks very pale and almost unnatural unless you fade the brown and green combo colors to match..

[cannedheat]

look in show off page 4. hear kitty .f you like that then you have the right paint, the Tamiya is not quite right its more yellow but at the end of the day its up to you

[jeff1101]

I don't know about the light when you took your photo but you are right, that looks green to me. I too have taken photos of ( and looked at ) dunkelgelb I used in various light sources and it does not look anywhere as green as in your photo. Mine still looks 'yellow'.

If you don't like the dunkelgelb that comes pre-mixed how about mixing your own? May I humbly suggest the mix I used... viewtopic.php?f=22&t=8956&start=300 Its in post 9/20/2013.

[dgsselkirk]

This picture is very poor for lighting so before you write off the colour take it out in natural lighting and you might be surprised how much it changes from our basements! Send a pic of that and all of us can better judge...

[Marc780]

thank you for all the replies, gentlemen, before i read some of them though i rushed to the local hobby people store (its a chain in the western US) and looked at the Tamiya sand #TS46. Tamiya says its a flat but it looked too brown by just a little. The other choice was Testors model master spray paint, its a pale yellow, i chose that and got two cans (huge tank nothing like the 1/35 monogram Mark IV's i used to built by the dozens in the 1970's). Figuring the shade could be seen as faded, and it sure is pale. I figure i will have to fade the combo colors too somewhat...

may just spray some sand spray paint into a container and add a few drops to the airbrush bottle...should have got white. Anyway here is the tank, primered,



the hull, and wheels already painted the sand, look almost good enough to eat crunch crunch


and in the Model master #1963, FS 33722 "modern desert sand". Opinions please if anyone has them,


Lower hull. Still planning to add a brace screwed on the top of the hull, but havent figured out exactly how the upper hull touches and how much to shorten the brace. Also i bought some strong magnets, and going to modify the hull so the magnets hold the upper hull on instead of all those screws.


i'd love to hear them, right now it is drying overnight and not putting the combo colors on til tomorrow at earliest. It is of course a mistake to not let the paint set before changing it more but a mistake i've made more then once.

I purchased these colors for the brown and green, plus a rust paint. They are

Model master field drab #FS30118 (green) (all the MM paints were $3.69/half ounce)
MM Rust (for the tracks) #1785
MM Military Brown #FS30117
MM Oliver Drab #FS34087 (more green)
Testors Airbrush thinner (i saw a video on airbrushing where the guy says clean the airbrush with windex instead of the costly thinner, makes sense to me) $7 - 1 3/4 oz)
Testors "FL Rubber" (the guy at the store recommended it for brown mixing, to darken) $2/quarter ounce)
Also i got some silicone shock oil (for the wheels-the inner road wheels are glued on caps at the factory so i dont want to just rip them off after the first one i did. And the wheels still stick some. So once the paint sets i will try a drop of this silicone oil on my test piece, a one pound plastic coffee container i painted for practicing the combo colors with the airbrush- to see if it ruins the paint).

[TKcommander]

Difficult to tell from your picture but I would say you have reason to get your money back on your plastic soldier paint.



Maybe a mislabled can or bad batch???

[cupoftea]

I am not by any standard an expert on tank colour schemes but I would bet that, given the passage of time, it would be hard for anyone to definitively say exactly what shades of colour world war two tanks were. I guess it all comes down to what shade you feel looks right.

[lister fiend]

sorry marc, i missed the boat a bit but my two cents are

I am not by any standard an expert on tank colour schemes but I would bet that, given the passage of time, it would be hard for anyone to definitively say exactly what shades of colour world war two tanks were. I guess it all comes down to what shade you feel looks right.

me neither cuppa but i have to agree with you.

the tiger 1 roadwheel is tamiya xf-60
i never liked this colour weather it's correct or not.
i always found myself looking for camo patterns with lots of green & brown to hide the yellow.
the kt roadwheel is vallejo dunkelgelb, which i bought yesterday & have to say i'm liking it a lot.
i don't care if it's accurate or not, will be using it from now on
cheers
lister