RAL 8000 Green Brown, the Real stuff!
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:03 am
Behold the holy grail of early war pre-Dunkelgelb "RAL 7028" base armor paint it's the RAL 8000 "Green Brown". It's the same color found on Tiger 131. During my research I also found that it was the same base painted to the Das Reich Tigers delivered in February '43 for the one I modeled 822 which became S13.
In my search for accurate RAL colored paints for my S13 build I came across a company in the states that custom mixes RAL paint colors in all sorts of quantity and volume. They also offer them in 4oz. and 12oz. spray cans that are 1/3 the cost of Tamiya TS spray paint. I was curious if this would be a good option as a base coat at the least. My concerns mainly were the opacity and how it would behave with fine details since it is not a model industry marketed item. It is a "Modified Alkyd Acrylic Enamel". I've had good luck using Rustoleum Primers thus far so after a quick email with an equally quick response I was assured that when applied correctly it would be just fine for maintaining details at least for 1/16 scale. It's marketed as an industrial paint for plastic and metal. It has a quick drying time and self levels well when applied in smooth even progressive coats.
One of the coolest things is the spray nozzle which allows quite a bit of control and manipulation. Lightyears better than any other spray can nozzle I've used yet.
Dry time was super quick. To touch in 15 mins and that means dry, no tacky feel to touch. Dry to be handled within about 1 hour and fully cured in 5 days. I had actually painted the Rustoleum primer and Tamiya TS paints first on other items and when I was done with this stuff it's 15-30 min wait time was drier in comparison to the TS and primer that were still tacky. 55 degrees F, 60% humidity with clouds.
So with nice even coats this stuff is super for coverage. I ordered the matte and it has a slight sheen which will be perfect to apply decals to.
Now yes an airbrush will be coming soon eventually But having a company custom mix a real RAL 8000 really hooked me. They also offer the paint in liquid form from 8oz. up. I'm not sure how well it would work through a modelers airbrush but it is used for industrial airbrush painting.
FWIW I did spray it outside in the yard and let it out gas for 2 hours before bringing everything inside. It does have that freshly painted smell but it's not obnoxious like the Testors Dullcote Lacquer.
Just thought I'd share.
In my search for accurate RAL colored paints for my S13 build I came across a company in the states that custom mixes RAL paint colors in all sorts of quantity and volume. They also offer them in 4oz. and 12oz. spray cans that are 1/3 the cost of Tamiya TS spray paint. I was curious if this would be a good option as a base coat at the least. My concerns mainly were the opacity and how it would behave with fine details since it is not a model industry marketed item. It is a "Modified Alkyd Acrylic Enamel". I've had good luck using Rustoleum Primers thus far so after a quick email with an equally quick response I was assured that when applied correctly it would be just fine for maintaining details at least for 1/16 scale. It's marketed as an industrial paint for plastic and metal. It has a quick drying time and self levels well when applied in smooth even progressive coats.
One of the coolest things is the spray nozzle which allows quite a bit of control and manipulation. Lightyears better than any other spray can nozzle I've used yet.
Dry time was super quick. To touch in 15 mins and that means dry, no tacky feel to touch. Dry to be handled within about 1 hour and fully cured in 5 days. I had actually painted the Rustoleum primer and Tamiya TS paints first on other items and when I was done with this stuff it's 15-30 min wait time was drier in comparison to the TS and primer that were still tacky. 55 degrees F, 60% humidity with clouds.
So with nice even coats this stuff is super for coverage. I ordered the matte and it has a slight sheen which will be perfect to apply decals to.
Now yes an airbrush will be coming soon eventually But having a company custom mix a real RAL 8000 really hooked me. They also offer the paint in liquid form from 8oz. up. I'm not sure how well it would work through a modelers airbrush but it is used for industrial airbrush painting.
FWIW I did spray it outside in the yard and let it out gas for 2 hours before bringing everything inside. It does have that freshly painted smell but it's not obnoxious like the Testors Dullcote Lacquer.
Just thought I'd share.
as no an airbrush is not in my future as I might at most have 2 more builds/redos left 
), MrChef, you used what you called Bix's technique for welds. Is that correct? Can you steer me to the exact page among Herman's umptyzillion? Or would you like to do a lesson in 1/16 welding?