Roll-call of el-mod users

[mickyb]

Hi Guys.......since beginning the installation of e-mod, I have had many chats with other members who have it installed. Some of you have had problems as I have. I don't know if this question has been asked before...so at the risk of being an idiot I'll ask it anyway

In support of Wibbly's info site, could we post what install we have here......it may be of interst to others, and give inspiration to those such as myself who are just taking the step.

My first and only setup so far is:

HL Tiger with full metal upgrade, standard gearboxes and motors
Weight 10lbs.
HL transmitter and reciever
RX13
3 card setup...Blaster, TLS and Booster...Afterburner in reserve if I need it.
CD turret....ongoing

All the best with your info post Rob

Mike B

[tiger205]

hi mike
          i have a HL Tiger1 with all metal upgrade parts a asiatam lower hull and tamiya recoil fitted in the HL turret, also 3.1'boxes with jamara 480hs bb motors, so far she weighs 12lbs, i have the older 3 card elmod set up,-booster-TLS- and blaster 2, i am useing a futaba 2.4ghz tx and r606fs rx, and have had no real problems(other than not knowing what i'm doing ::) ) in my opinion elmod makes a HL tank so much better

              Tony

[wibblywobbly]

Hi Mike

Tiger 1
Asiatam lower hull
Metal road wheels
Metal tracks
Metal tools
Alloy barrel
Brass muzzle
Metal hatches
Metal cupola
Muzzle flash
Metal machine gun
Metal gearboxes
Visaton FRS7-8 speaker + speaker box
Jamara 480 BB HS motors
Weight 13 pounds

Elmod:
Thinktank v1.00 (latest version)
Sounblaster v1.06 (latest version)
CSI battle unit (modified and concealed leds + sensors)
Reworked Modified sound files including crew voices and battlefield sounds, theme music and Last Post!)

First set of boards, old style, flash card holder fell off as not soldered on properly.
Replaced by Elmod with new style boards.
After minimal use the fuse blew that supplies the 8 pin and 5 pin sockets.
Numerous emails did not acheive a resolution so I simply returned it.
Fuse replaced by Elmod.
Again, after minimal use the same fuse blew.
Numerous emails, and Elmod advised that they would send a replacement component so that I could fit it myself.
Before new component sent the ESC's on Thinktank board started smoking after 20 secs in its first use up a slight gradient. Ran my Bulldog over the same area for 20 minutes with no problems at all.
Placed tank on bench, removed battle unit, speaker, soundblaster. Left just motors, power, and thinktank board. Ran tank raised off bench with no transmission resistance. Smoking again. Checked board and 2 x esc's are toast.
Elmod asked me to return board and they will fix it.
Quoted possible causes:

- blocked mechanics (a stone in the chain??)
- missing/malfunctioning interference suppression on the motors (there must be three condensators per motor. Two are problably inside the housing)
- the motors are too big We have good experiences with the Jamara 480Pro (the type with the slowest speed.. ), but I don't think it's the problem.

1. Nope
2. I haven't fitted any suppressors to these motors and I don't think the Graupner 400's I had in there before had any. Need to research this.
3. Others use these motors without problems.

I then used a brand new out of the packet Board:

Board No2 – Brand New.

I have today conducted the following tests:

Test 1.

1. Tank is raised on hull. Minimal transmission resistance.
2. Installed new Thinktank board
3. Connected Power +/-
4. Connected 2 x Jamara 480 BB HS motors
5. Removed jumper
6. Motors begin running
7. Instant smoking from esc.
8. Immediately turned off power

Test 2.

1. Connected motors directly to battery
2. Use a ‘clamp meter’ to measure amps on each motor
3. 3 amps

Test 3.

1. Removed gearboxes from hull
2. Connected motors directly to battery
3. Placed ‘load’ on driveshafts
4. Minimum load = 1.5 amps
5. Normal running = 3 amps
6. Maximum load  = 10 amps (the tank would never be subjected to this level of abuse, a friend gripped the driveshaft as hard as he could with pliers).

Test 4.

1. Gearboxes not installed
2. Installed Thinktank board
3. Connected Power +/-
4. Connected 2 x Standard Heng Long Motors
5. Removed jumper
6. Only 1 motor active
7. Swapped motors L to R
8. Still only 1 motor running

The Jamara motors do not exceed the specification for the Elmod board, Elmod confirmed that many people use them.
The Heng Long motors do not exceed the specification for the Elmod board.

They would only have required 3amps during Test 1, but the Thinktank board still failed?

I also used a digital heat sensor during Test 1, and no increase in temperature was detected before the smoke appeared.

I have conducted all of the tests that are available on the motors and they are not overloading the Thinktank board, and yet the board still fails. I have no idea why this should be.

Update - Thomas now tells me that the Jamara HS BB motors will blow the esc's, but he doesn't know why? I have now fitted Protech 400's. Just as efficient, and as soon as anything jams the tracks the main fuse blows, which is just what I want. I have also fitted a 10amp circuit breaker that plugs into the fuse holder, now when it blows I can just remove the obstruction and reset the fuse! 

Rob G

[grompix]

I have two of the older Elmod setups.

1 x Think Tank CSI (5530) {Combat Simulation Interface}
1 x ThinkTank Set Blaster II/BoomBox1 (5520) {Sound Module & Speaker}
1 x ThinkTank Set Booster {Control module for motors}
TLS Prop (5507) {Turret, Lights & Sound for Proportional Radio}
1 x ThinkTank ExtraCooler (9903) {Heatsink}
1 x ThinkTank Afterburner (5518) {More power, higher Amps}

Fitted in HL Panzer 3 with metal tracks, 3-1 Metal HL gearboxes and Asiatam recoil.


1 x ThinkTank Set Blaster II/BoomBox1 (5520)
1 x ThinkTank BigBooster (5521) {Control module for motors - Afterburner built in}
1 x ThinkTank CSI (5530) {Combat Simulation Interface}
TLS Prop (5507) {Turret, Lights & Sound for Proportional Radio}

Fitted in VVSS Sherman (Old Tamiya Sherman Mod). Metal tracks, Tamiya Geaboxes, Tamiya recoil & gun elevation.

No problems with any of them (apart from wrestling with the resultant tangle of wires of course)

Cheers
Chris 

[Jakeand]

I have also two of the older Elmod setups.

1 x ThinkTank Set Blaster II/BoomBox1 (5520) {Sound Module & Speaker}
1 x ThinkTank Set Booster {Control module for motors}
TLS Prop (5507) {Turret, Lights & Sound for Proportional Radio}
1 x ThinkTank ExtraCooler (9903) {Heatsink}

Graupner MC14 radio

Fitted in HL Tiger with metal tracks, 3-1 Metal HL gearboxes, Permax/Multiplex 480 motors and Tamiya recoil. 4,5 kg/app. 9 lbs

1 x ThinkTank Set Blaster II/BoomBox1 (5520) {Sound Module & Speaker}
1 x ThinkTank Set Booster {Control module for motors}
TLS Prop (5507) {Turret, Lights & Sound for Proportional Radio}
1 x ThinkTank ExtraCooler (9903) {Heatsink}

Graupner MC14 radio

Fitted in HL / Wecohe Pz III with metal tracks, Asiatam "Stug" low profile metal gearboxes (this one is "under construction" so have not decided wich recoil unit to use)

Best regards

Jake

[[ICE]monkey]

pershing has booster/ blaster2 /tls / 6 prop with a futaba c7 2.4 ghz tx

tiger has booster / blaster 2/ tls / 6 prop and recoil on the same tx as above

[Aus_Tank]

Tiger 1 with....

Big Booster
Blaster 2
TLS

Spektrum Dx6i with BR6000 rx

Phill