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Winter Painting Help Wanted

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:13 am
by wheels
Hi, Can any one give me any tips on winter painting my Tiger 1

Re: Winter Painting Help Wanted

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:49 am
by sevoblast
There's tons of photos out there of winter cammo Tigers, both I and II. Some were painted pristine white all over, a truly proffesional job. Some were brush painted complete with drips and white smeared on the tyres, although pretty much covered. Others were brush painted, or mop painted, or fist full of straw painted, either mostly white or partially white as in a cammo pattern white, even white smeared with mud in the early spring. Sometimes the numbers were completely painted over with white and then renumbered, others they left the number, crosses, and unit insignia in an original colour box with white around it. I've seen photos of upper hull and turrets painted, but not the wheels or sprockets, others with cross hatch patterns, just about everything.

The paint was not of the best quality, and began to rapidly wear off, especially at high traffic areas on the hull and turret, and of course you had the dust, dirt, and mud of the AO to contend with.

Basically, find yerself a photo you like, and go for it. Just remember, though, don't overdo the rust affect. For a number of reasons, tanks did not have a lot of rust on them. You had the normal attrition of numbers in combat affecting the life of the average AFV for one thing, in other words a lot of them were knocked out before they had a chance to grow a good crop of rust. Then again, any First Shirt worth his salt would not allow such a thing as a lot of rust on a vehicle, nor would his CO. Dirt and mud in bad weather, yes, but it would be cleaned within reason when possible during down time. A clean soldier may not be a good soldier, but a good soldier will almost always be a clean soldier.

Re: Winter Painting Help Wanted

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:44 pm
by oz
will you be using an airbrush or a paintbrush, what vehicle are you painting and how do yo want it to look, new' worn' or faded.

cheers oz.

Re: Winter Painting Help Wanted

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:44 pm
by wheels
I'll be trying to use an Airbrush to paint my H L Tiger 1.

Re: Winter Painting Help Wanted

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:00 pm
by oz
an easy way to do it is spray your tank dark-grey.
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nest mix some flat white(XF-2) AND khaki (XF-49) to a ratio of 80% white / 20% khaki and squiggle this all over the tank, on the pic i squiggled light-grey but substitute this for your white/khaki mix.
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then on top of this spray pure white' but spray it in patches of different depth, on some parts spray a heavy patch and on other parts spray it lighter so you can still see the colors underneath, then put a couple of washes through the whole thing to tie it all together then a bit of pastel chalks if you want.
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although this tiger is 1/35 the method i used for the 1/16 tank i did is still the same, its hard to explain without the proper pics but i hope you get the general idea.

cheers tony.

Re: Winter Painting Help Wanted

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:15 am
by tankman
Thanks for the how to on winter painting OZ. I have a T 34/85 that's in need of a respray and I now have an idea of where to start. Thank goodness for this forum :D .
Alan

Re: Winter Painting Help Wanted

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:50 am
by Ardennen
Hi,

(Text translatet with Onlinetranslator :D my English is not good)
a different method is the HAIR SPRAY METHOD

Approach:

First the tank or the vehicle is lacquered quite normally with the basic colour (grey, sand, green or camouflage). Well it is, even if already a Washing is carried out. The whole allow to well dry, and with varnish (acrylic) seal.
After this has also dried well, the whole tank (there where the winter camouflage should get on) with hair spray spray. Some minutes wait and then with the Airgun the tank in white varnish. It is necessary, this white spraying in acrylic (expl. Vallejo or Tamiya) with Enamels does not go this technology.

After some minutes again - thus 3-5 - one takes a very stiff bristle brush and warm water, dips the paintbrush in the water and rubs with it over the places of the tank where the colour (copied lime broth) should be shown flakily or worn. Do not surprise, this lasts something, to the colour starts to go off.

After the work allow to dry like again well, with varnish fix and still at some certain places a Detailwash with a brown tone (expl. Vandykbraun) carry out. This is everything.

Verry easily and the effect is brilliant. As well as to see here:

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OR (one more method):

the next possibility of the winter camouflage is with the sponge. On this occasion, the vehicle is varnished before white. Afterwards with him the basic colour swam dab. According to wear more or less:

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occasionally once more by means of fading some accents place:

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Additional Chipping raises the feast for the eyes:

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light Wash in different tones - and ready:

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The whole one also functions with other camouflages:

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Cheers,

Erik

(Hope you understand the translation???? :O )

Re: Winter Painting Help Wanted

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:37 am
by Crispy
A great tutorial their Erik with very nice results. I especially like the bullet strikes on the Humvee windows, very convincing.

I was wondering about taking an already painted Tiger 1, varnishing it and then spraying over with a white non waterproof "poster" paint. Once dry i'd then do a similar method in attacking it with a stiff brush and maybe blowing pure water though the airbrush to wash off some of the white paint and hopefully get that "end of season" look.