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Re: HAYA Centurion Mk3. First Impressions.

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2024 10:08 am
by jarndice
The Bazooka Plate support struts on my Haya Centurion did not snap they were poorly glued,
A problem that was quickly fixed with a dot of glue.

Re: HAYA Centurion Mk3. First Impressions.

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:47 pm
by zooma
jarndice wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 10:08 am The Bazooka Plate support struts on my Haya Centurion did not snap they were poorly glued,
A problem that was quickly fixed with a dot of glue.
Two of my struts snapped off (as pictured).

I was pleased that mine were not glued at all - if they were glued-in I may never have been able to extract the 'stump" that remained embedded in the lower chassis tub.

Re: HAYA Centurion Mk3. First Impressions.

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2024 4:10 pm
by Exhibitedbrute
All you would have needed to do with issues like that is get something strong and pointy and tap it through. I end up with broken stumps quite often when I strip em down and I just tap them through with hammer and watch screw driver. Other make shift tools are available

Re: HAYA Centurion Mk3. First Impressions.

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:02 pm
by zooma
Exhibitedbrute wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 4:10 pm All you would have needed to do with issues like that is get something strong and pointy and tap it through. I end up with broken stumps quite often when I strip em down and I just tap them through with hammer and watch screw driver. Other make shift tools are available
Hi Exhibitedbrute,

I am guessing that you do not own a HAYA Centurion?

The sockets that these Bazooka Plate supports push into (on the HAYA Centurion) are BLIND - they are not hollow and have no through holes drilled in them - so it is NOT POSSIBLE to tap or push any sheared-off stump through from the reverse side in the usual way (we would all choose to do it this way if we could - nice and simple!).

Hence the need to pull them out from the front - not easy when you have nothing to get a grip onto!

Please take a look at the picture as it shows that there is nothing above the socket to provide any sort of a grip to pull the broken stump back out of the hole.

Sadly the only place that I have seen any of these HAYA Centurion struts snap off is at at the root (as shown) where the thick moulding transits to being much thinner, so unsurprisingly this is the weakest point and is exactly where these particular struts shear off.

Previous pictures also show the inside of the HAYA Centurion chassis tub - there are no holes inside the location sockets that these struts push into, so any sheared-off stump has to be extracted from the outside by pulling them out.

Bob.

Re: HAYA Centurion Mk3. First Impressions.

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:54 pm
by tankme
I had one of the struts break off when I jostled the tank on my workbench. No biggie as I'm removing all of them anyway.

Re: HAYA Centurion Mk3. First Impressions.

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:40 am
by zooma
tankme wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:54 pm I had one of the struts break off when I jostled the tank on my workbench. No biggie as I'm removing all of them anyway.
My struts snapped-off during my HAYA Centurion KIT build - so mine also broke on the bench - even before the build was completed!

This is a weak area on this model - the root of the joint needs reinforcing as the mounding goes from a large fat moulding stub (where the strut is plugged-in) to a very thin strut shape too quickly, so the area between the two ( where they always snap-off) needs to be thicker.

A more gradual blend in shape from the mounting stub to the thinner scale sized struts would probably solve the problem and would not be visible on the model behind the "bazooka plates".

......strangely, the much thinner mounting lug on the Tongde Centurion side struts may be more durable as the thickness of the structure is more consistent....?

Bob.

Re: HAYA Centurion Mk3. First Impressions.

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:51 am
by jarndice
The problem could probably be overcome if they changed the material they are using --less rigid perhaps.

Re: HAYA Centurion Mk3. First Impressions.

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:59 am
by Exhibitedbrute
No. I have the Ludwig one

Re: HAYA Centurion Mk3. First Impressions.

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 9:52 am
by zooma
zooma wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:40 am
tankme wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:54 pm I had one of the struts break off when I jostled the tank on my workbench. No biggie as I'm removing all of them anyway.
My struts snapped-off during my HAYA Centurion KIT build - so mine also broke on the bench - even before the build was completed!

This is a weak area on this model - the root of the joint needs reinforcing as the mounding goes from a large fat moulding stub (where the strut is plugged-in) to a very thin strut shape too quickly, so the area between the two ( where they always snap-off) needs to be thicker.

A more gradual blend in shape from the mounting stub to the thinner scale sized struts would probably solve the problem and would not be visible on the model behind the "bazooka plates".

......strangely, the much thinner mounting lug on the Tongde Centurion side struts may be more durable as the thickness of the structure is more consistent....?

Bob.

Re: HAYA Centurion Mk3. First Impressions.

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 10:19 am
by Exhibitedbrute
For me though it will be a pain to build I won’t have the problem of those parts snapping off because they can simply be glued back on or remade. Although I am doing the mk II so once I have done the research on the detailing may not even get used