'23/24 "Winter" or "D-Day" Build Introduction

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Now with the "Winter" and "D-Day" Builds underway for nearly two months, I am impressed. I try hard to read every posting in the section (and most of the others, too), and even if I don't respond with hot air, be sure that I am soaking up learning and drooling at all your superb work. Man, am I glad we started this. Fun! Fun! Fun! (and daddy can't take the T-Bird away).
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Herr Dr. Professor wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:50 pm Now with the "Winter" and "D-Day" Builds underway for nearly two months, I am impressed. I try hard to read every posting in the section (and most of the others, too), and even if I don't respond with hot air, be sure that I am soaking up learning and drooling at all your superb work. Man, am I glad we started this. Fun! Fun! Fun! (and daddy can't take the T-Bird away).
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i couldn't agree more. It's a blast to see all of this talent and different types of work in one spot.

Fun for sure. (minus the obligatory Beachboys reference though.) :haha: @) :P :D
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So, I will be joining the fray with a Sherman 105 from the 761st Tank Battalion (Black Panthers) in the Bulge. The markings and camo will be authentic, but the tank itself is fictional.
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Mithras wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 1:32 am So, I will be joining the fray with a Sherman 105 from the 761st Tank Battalion (Black Panthers) in the Bulge. The markings and camo will be authentic, but the tank itself is fictional.
I look forward to you joining us merry pranksters.
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Yippee! Is the M4 fictional—fine with me!—because the 761st didn’t have 105s?
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105 armed Shermans were standard issue to a tank battalion, 3 in the Battalion HQ and 1 each in the Medium tank company HQ's:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separate_ ... ucture.png

I suspect what Mithras means is he is just going to pull the bumper codes and serial numbers out of thin air :thumbup:
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Tiger6 wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 6:50 pm 105 armed Shermans were standard issue to a tank battalion, 3 in the Battalion HQ and 1 each in the Medium tank company HQ's:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separate_ ... ucture.png

I suspect what Mithras means is he is just going to pull the bumper codes and serial numbers out of thin air :thumbup:
That's correct. There are only a limited number of accurate images of 761st number codes and serial numbers, and a friend suggested to me that it might be more respectful to create a 'fictional' tank than an actual one, in part because the photos of accurate insignia/mascots/slogans for the photos we do have are fairly horrible. I've got a pal from the forum doing stencils for me. The crew will be named for various men of color I've been close to. The CO will be named for my grandfather, for instance.


So, yes, all plausible, but fictional vehicle from the unit. :)
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Mithras wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 8:20 pm
Tiger6 wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 6:50 pm 105 armed Shermans were standard issue to a tank battalion, 3 in the Battalion HQ and 1 each in the Medium tank company HQ's:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separate_ ... ucture.png

I suspect what Mithras means is he is just going to pull the bumper codes and serial numbers out of thin air :thumbup:
That's correct. There are only a limited number of accurate images of 761st number codes and serial numbers, and a friend suggested to me that it might be more respectful to create a 'fictional' tank than an actual one, in part because the photos of accurate insignia/mascots/slogans for the photos we do have are fairly horrible. I've got a pal from the forum doing stencils for me. The crew will be named for various men of color I've been close to. The CO will be named for my grandfather, for instance.


So, yes, all plausible, but fictional vehicle from the unit. :)

As per 105s ,they did in fact have them like any other US Armor BTN of the period. I would have preferred a 76mm or a Jumbo - but couldn't locate either of them in scale in short enough order to begin working on them (well, I couldn't find a Jumbo, period.)
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Re: '23/24 "Winter" or "D-Day" Build Introduction

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Which is exactly how I do my 4th Armoured Division vehicles :thumbup: Serial numbers in the correct range, Bumper codes appropreate for the Battalion and Company that I claim them to be from, and the rest of it is a case of "well you can't prove it wasn't like this, so go whistle..."
(unless it is a photographed vehicle like Thunderbolt VI, Cobra King, Blockbuster 3rd, etc. - in which case, its only a little effort more to do it right, than do it wrong)
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