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I'm looking for photos of a Grey Puma SdKfz 234/2
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 11:08 am
by Snowwolflair
I have decided to paint my Sdkfz 234/2 in their early grey camouflage. There were few in this scheme and even fewer photos. Can anyone help.
thanks
Re: I'm looking for photos of a Grey Puma SdKfz 234/2
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:01 pm
by Tiger6
Per wikipedia the production run was as follows: "101 built between September 1943 and September 1944". Panzer Grey fell out of use before that time period, so you won't find a picture of one in grey.
Re: I'm looking for photos of a Grey Puma SdKfz 234/2
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:17 pm
by Snowwolflair
As I understand it there were up to ten units both pre-production and first built units that were painted grey, hence the scarcity of photos.
I am hoping for photos from the trials a bit like the prototype photos of the Sturmtiger which was built on an early Tiger chassis, were as the production run was on the late chassis.
Re: I'm looking for photos of a Grey Puma SdKfz 234/2
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 2:48 pm
by lmcq11
According to the Nuts&Bolts volume 40 on the SD.Kfz.234, the first photos of the 234/1 test vehicle illustrate a two tone camo of probably 2/3 brown RAL 8020 and 1/3 grey RAL 7027. The first serial vehicles had a base of Dark Yellow RAL 7028. The book also displays pictures of a 234/3 in grey at Bovington, with the comment “painted in extremely poor paint scheme” attached to it.
No grey 234/2 Puma
If you are building a Puma, I recommend this book. It also has pictures and color graphs of the test vehicles.
Re: I'm looking for photos of a Grey Puma SdKfz 234/2
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 2:58 pm
by Snowwolflair
That is interesting as the brown grey camo does not show up well on B/W photos and could explain why there are descriptions of them being all grey. I will take a look at the book.
This raises the question does anyone know of distinct Grey brown camo photos.
Re: I'm looking for photos of a Grey Puma SdKfz 234/2
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:02 pm
by lmcq11
Take note that the series prototype is a 234/1 with the 20mm turret, not a Puma.
Re: I'm looking for photos of a Grey Puma SdKfz 234/2
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:18 pm
by Snowwolflair
I have seen a phot of a Puma /2 which really looks like all grey and it was in a combat situation. This may be a grey/brown and bad colour definition but it is clearly not a dark yellow based camouflage as it was darker than the uniforms of the soldiers next to it. The photos was Eastern front and snow on the ground.
Re: I'm looking for photos of a Grey Puma SdKfz 234/2
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:27 pm
by jhamm
There was never ever a Puma (Sd.Kfz. 234/1-4) with grey colour, they were all built from mid / autumn 1943 onwards and dark yellow colour.
The predecessor of the Puma - the Sd.Kfz. 231 - was build from 1937 to 1943 and have 8 wheel too.
These were with panzer grey colour and are often confused with the Puma.
In black and white pictures all tanks are grey...

Re: I'm looking for photos of a Grey Puma SdKfz 234/2
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:49 pm
by Snowwolflair
I solved the problem.
The photo I saw was an Eastern Front field overpaint of a grey / white winter camouflage which explains the snow on the ground.