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Tiger 1 late wheels and idlers
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:17 am
by ronnie42
Been looking for late wheels and idlers with bearings , nothing crops up. Did anyone ever make them ?
Re: Tiger 1 late wheels and idlers
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:18 am
by tomhugill
Henntec and they were about 250 euros!
I've got tanks with the ones without bearings and they're fine
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Re: Tiger 1 late wheels and idlers
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:55 pm
by ronnie42
Surprised that you can't get them , Panther and KT have bearings . Would put money on that way more Tiger 1s are upgraded than the Panther and KT combined. Wonder if someone has managed to convert to bearings on one of the builds ? I like the way the tank rolls to a halt with bearings fitted.
Re: Tiger 1 late wheels and idlers
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:56 pm
by tomhugill
ronnie42 wrote:Surprised that you can't get them , Panther and KT have bearings . Would put money on that way more Tiger 1s are upgraded than the Panther and KT combined. Wonder if someone has managed to convert to bearings on one of the builds ? I like the way the tank rolls to a halt with bearings fitted.
Inertia is due to weight and gearing, not really bearings
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Re: Tiger 1 late wheels and idlers
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:16 pm
by ronnie42
Still would like bearings, less friction = more inertia..Dirt/muck on metal to metal is OK if replacing them after a while.
Re: Tiger 1 late wheels and idlers
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:25 pm
by Son of a gun-ner
ronnie42 wrote:Still would like bearings, less friction = more inertia..Dirt/muck on metal to metal is OK if replacing them after a while.
Bushes are preferable to ball races if you intend to get the wheels wet in dirty water, much easier to clean up, and less likely to retain hard to remove steel bearing unfriendly moisture.
Re: Tiger 1 late wheels and idlers
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:29 pm
by tomhugill
It would be much easier to fit bushes.
Some one like mk modellbau might be able to help with the machining. He does a conversion for taigen panzer iv wheels to bearings
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Re: Tiger 1 late wheels and idlers
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:32 pm
by General Jumbo01
Ah, but if you buy fully sealed ball race bearings you avoid that issue. Dirt in bushes can wear both bush and axle but with sealed ball races axles last longer. A quick Google search will find you someone who has the size you are looking for at a sensible price. You'll need to know the inside and outside diameter, width and flanged or not.
Re: Tiger 1 late wheels and idlers
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:13 pm
by ronnie42
Have ordered some stuff here
https://www.igus.co.uk/iglidur/cylindrical-bearing Have them in my old clutch drive KT as spocket shaft bearings.
Re: Tiger 1 late wheels and idlers
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:42 pm
by Son of a gun-ner
General Jumbo01 wrote:Ah, but if you buy fully sealed ball race bearings you avoid that issue.
They are moisture resistant, not waterproof, if they were, they wouldn't turn so freely. Also, not so easy to get on such tiny bearings.