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Here is an interesting build I found on ebay its very well done but not rc and is a bit pricey this would make a great custom built rc tank what do you think .http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1-18-Custom-Ultimate-Soldier-XD-BBI-Dragon-Fov_W0QQitemZ150358675908QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item23021351c4&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1688%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
Stevie

Hi Stevie - good find, but as you say also very expensive. It gives however a thought  as I have a 88MM all Metal Flak Gun and as far as I see its build on a Panzer IV chassis, which should be easy enough to get hold of. Could be a winter project

cheers
Steen

It dosn't look like it will be hard to do Steen if you have  88 and a panzer IV' that one on ebay is very well done its a pity its not rc.
Stevie

It’s yet another tank based totally on fiction I like his history that he has made up himself and bares nothing with reality in fact to mount an 88 so high on a chassis would have made the tank dangerously top heavy and when it comes to engineering the Germans have always been very good at and would have realised whilst discussing it over a few beers, the only thing that comes close is the Mobelwagen which had a Flac37 mounted and the side walls could be folded down for use

The Germans did mount an 88mm on a Panzer Iv type chassis
BUT and it is a BIG BUT it was a special chassis the Germans referred to it as a Panzer IVc NOT to be confused with a Panzer IV ausf C
Basically it bore a faint passing resemblance to a panzer Iv chassis it had Panzer IV style tracks(but wider) and PanzerIV ausf G style drive cogs
The idler wheel looked like it came off a Tiger 1 and the road wheel looked similar to famo wheels. The suspension was also different.
The top of the fighting compartment was also cut away to the level of the mudguards.
It was called a 8.8cm Flak auf sonderfahrgestall.
The Germans built 3 and experimented with the different 88s fitting the Flak 37 88 and the flak41 L 75(special mount version).
There was one attempt on paper to fit the pak88 43/3 L71 to a Panzer IV in November 1944 Krupps suggested it but it never got off the drawing board.
I have also been told but yet to see documentary proof of Stug IV’s with the 88 L56
For those of you who fancy building something really out of left field.
There are in existance outline drawings only of Panzer IV’s with a 128mm and 150mm guns!!!!

It does appear to be a well done effort-his /her painting skills are much better than mine.
I would suggest he has seen the one very common photo of the 88 on a Panzer IVc which is taken from an high angle with the armour shield down therefore masking the wheels, then put 2 and 2 together.

hi nibel.
is this the one you are talking about, an 88 on a modified Pz IV hull, so in that respect i would say what the modeler has attempted isn't total fiction..............oz

Semantics again
88 on top of a standard Panzer IV fiction
88 on a special built prototype IVc chassis fact

It depends where you draw your own accuracy line as to whether you class it fiction or an attempt at a factual model. I personally would not have done it there are just too many major things wrong but thats just me.

I think we ought to put that one down to modeller's licence

It does appear well done though which makes me really jealous I spend hours improving the accuracy of models only to ruin them with my terrible painting skills.

The flakpanzer that was done was well made if not entirely accurate he sold it for $350 so someone liked it. I allready have a 150mm on a panzer IV chassis its called a Hummel.
Stevie

And so do I    and still thinking about my winterproject with the 88mm

cheers
Steen

as Bob says but Oz fails to see is a heavily modified version of a Panzer IV with interleaved road wheels and torsion bars and at first glace doesn’t look like a Panzer IV something the US modeller didn’t try to emulate, I must admit that I did find these same pictures in the same book but as I have more than 150 tank related books these things can take time to find sometimes I have to go over the same book twice to find what I’m looking for but when I do make a mistake Oz unlike yourself I don’t edit my posts or remove the thread as you have done a few times