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Torro Full Metal 1:16 KingTiger Elevation and Recoil upgrade

Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 9:01 pm
by Tgerard
I was not satisfied with the Torro (Taigen / IMEX) Full Metal 1:16 King Tiger Turret and Gun wobble. Resulting mainly from the wrong gun attachment pivot points, which is about 25mm out from the correct scale position.
Therefore I spend some time to fix this issue with a full metal Gun elevation and recoil upgrade.

Part 1 of 3 (original build)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FmiumK5Dqc

Part 2 of 3 (my upgrade, video of operation)
https://youtu.be/wv5fOqxukVs

Re: Torro Full Metal 1:16 KingTiger Elevation and Recoil upg

Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 9:11 pm
by Marco Peter
Pure Art.

Period.





But even he who makes such great art needs to properly introduce him/herself and follow the rules. 8)

Re: Torro Full Metal 1:16 KingTiger Elevation and Recoil upg

Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 9:17 pm
by Tgerard
Hello Marco Peter,
Please let me introduce myself. I am from Luxembourg.
This is my first metal and biggest Tank I own. The modification was a full out of the head build by trial and error method.
With kind regards
Gerard

Re: Torro Full Metal 1:16 KingTiger Elevation and Recoil upg

Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 10:13 pm
by Marco Peter
A warm welcome to you Gerard!

But lets make sure we can all welcome you, here:
viewforum.php?f=42
:D

Re: Torro Full Metal 1:16 KingTiger Elevation and Recoil upg

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 11:49 am
by 43rdRecceReg
A rock-solid, and bulletproof- looking example of engineering in miniature, Gerard. :thumbup: For a 'newbie', it's almost unprecedented. :D

Re: Torro Full Metal 1:16 KingTiger Elevation and Recoil upg

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:30 pm
by Tgerard
Thank you for the motivating replies and comments :-)
The main challenge and problems I encountered, was to develope an assembly which is small enough to fit through the turret bottom cover plate, but at the same time optain the gun's full range of operation up and down, with an at scale recoil possible at any angle position of the gun.

Re: Torro Full Metal 1:16 KingTiger Elevation and Recoil upg

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:26 pm
by c.rainford73
Hello Gerard and welcome. This is a masters class in tank engineering :thumbup:

Re: Torro Full Metal 1:16 KingTiger Elevation and Recoil upg

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:10 am
by Tgerard
The upper hull is too weak to carry the weight of the metal turret (1,2kg) , because the turret is swinging back and forth when travelling over uneven terrain. This comes for the wall thickness of the upper hull which has only a wall thickness of about 1.0mm.

I have built an aluminum metal frame to strengthen the upper hull, and solve the undesired swinging issue.
The aluminum frame is fixed with 2 components glue to the upper hull.

Re: Torro Full Metal 1:16 KingTiger Elevation and Recoil upg

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:49 am
by 43rdRecceReg
Once again, a neatly conceived and executed solution :thumbup: There are some members here who were once bitten by the 'metal turret' bug, but then reverted to the plastic option. There are two reasons: (1)
it's easier to modify a plastic turret, and (2); the sheer weight of the metal turret can lead to torsional problems in the upper hull, and even the model itself- as you've discovered.
'Full metal' (Turret, Upper Hull and Lower Hull) offerings from the likes of Mato offer great rigidity; but also provide a real challenge for the motors, transmission, and e-controller- because of the added weight.
We mustn't forget the increase in postal charges, either... :problem: :D

Re: Torro Full Metal 1:16 KingTiger Elevation and Recoil upg

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:50 pm
by HERMAN BIX
43rdRecceReg wrote:Once again, a neatly conceived and executed solution :thumbup: There are some members here who were once bitten by the 'metal turret' bug, but then reverted to the plastic option. There are two reasons: (1)
it's easier to modify a plastic turret, and (2); the sheer weight of the metal turret can lead to torsional problems in the upper hull, and even the model itself- as you've discovered.
'Full metal' (Turret, Upper Hull and Lower Hull) offerings from the likes of Mato offer great rigidity; but also provide a real challenge for the motors, transmission, and e-controller- because of the added weight.
We mustn't forget the increase in postal charges, either... :problem: :D
Ohh yeah........postage.........is....a real ...... ^&%$#$@#!@$%%^$%@#%^^&$@#$%^%& in the buttocks :problem: