Interesting article on the Panzer IVG

Dusty Steppes · Post by **Dusty Steppes** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:36 pm

This showed up in my browser's newsfeed. I found it to be an interesting read and thought it would be worth sharing.

https://thedailybounce.net/museums-even ... -a-threat/

Schultzy · Post by **Schultzy** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:51 pm

Thanks for this, an interesting read indeed!

I love the language “The British noted that...”

I’m reading ‘Rogue Warrior of the SAS’ at the moment and it’s amazing how matter of fact some approaches were during WWII.

It really was a different time.

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Elephant · Post by **Elephant** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:08 pm

Cheers dusty,
I agree, an interesting read

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jarndice · Post by **jarndice** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:21 am

Very timely and thank you for putting it on the Forum,

I always thought that the removal of the electric Turret rotation motor was for weight saving on the PZ4 "J" but it appears that the manual control was the only way to get off an accurate shot so it makes sense from a gunners perspective as well as saving weight.
.I always wondered why the Panther was so much bigger than the PZ4 even though they were both rated as Medium Weight Tanks, reading this shows how cramped it was working in a PZ4 and the need for more space which the Panther offered..

jarndice · Post by **jarndice** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:01 pm

As a side bar to this if you goto ---
www.afvmodeller.com
they have many publications that are really helpful,
They also sell some brilliant resin parts for 1/16 PZ4s including a fully detailed Maybach 120 V12 PZ4 engine, Nor cheap £82 but a thing of beauty.

Dusty Steppes · Post by **Dusty Steppes** » Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:05 am

jarndice wrote:Very timely and thank you for putting it on the Forum,
I always thought that the removal of the electric Turret rotation motor was for weight saving on the PZ4 "J" but it appears that the manual control was the only way to get off an accurate shot so it makes sense from a gunners perspective as well as saving weight.
.I always wondered why the Panther was so much bigger than the PZ4 even though they were both rated as Medium Weight Tanks, reading this shows how cramped it was working in a PZ4 and the need for more space which the Panther offered..

It seems that it would be somewhat uncomfortable for the commander to be located in line with the recoil of the main gun.

Dusty Steppes · Post by **Dusty Steppes** » Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:23 am

jarndice wrote:As a side bar to this if you goto ---
http://www.afvmodeller.com
they have many publications that are really helpful,
They also sell some brilliant resin parts for 1/16 PZ4s including a fully detailed Maybach 120 V12 PZ4 engine, Nor cheap £82 but a thing of beauty.

Thanks for the link. I will be checking that out. I have a Tamiya PZ4 that I need to build. It has been sitting in its box for about a year now patiently waiting on me to find the free time to work on it.

Lert · Post by **Lert** » Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:42 pm

jarndice wrote:I always wondered why the Panther was so much bigger than the PZ4 even though they were both rated as Medium Weight Tanks

Panther was a medium only in role; its size and mass would easily made her a candidate for heavy tank.

jarndice · Post by **jarndice** » Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:03 pm

When I saw the PZ4 and the Panther together at Bovington for the first time I was really surprised at the difference in size between these two German Medium Tanks and how much bigger the Panther was to the M4 Sherman,
It really looked out of place whereas the Panther was much closer in size to the heavy Tanks on display,

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