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MATO Tiger 1 Body.

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:54 pm
by jarndice
I know that the MATO Tiger 1 metal rear panel will only fit the Taigen Metal Hull after a lot of work But how much work if any is needed to get a good fit between a MATO Metal Tiger 1 Body and a Taigen Metal Hull ?

Re: MATO Tiger 1 Body.

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:25 am
by 43rdRecceReg
Morning, Shaun
My question would be, why would you want to marry the Mato upper hull to the Taigen metal (alloy) hull? It is because it's inherently more accurate- detail wise? :think: :| Or, is this metal for metal's sake?..along with all that extra, and not necessarily helpful, weight. You yourself have observed in the past, I believe, that it's easier to modify/adapt ABS and Styrene parts than zinc/pot metal ones. One example would be creating slight slopes on the top edge of the front armour panel, to get it looking a bit more authentic. Clearly, trimming plastic here,would be easier than filing the edge down. :| What's more, isn't it easier to create pitting and other 'worn' metal effects on plastic (using Surfacer etc..) than on pot metal itself? Again, just a thought. :)
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Here's the Mato rear panel. Again, is it more accurate than the Taigen one? I always thought they shared the same basic moulds...
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The idea of an all metal Tank is... :O incredibly alluring to model armour fans- for obvious reasons. The pinnacle being an Armortek in 1:6, or perhaps the Aeromate Tiger 1 in 1:16. However, at a less utopian level, isn't it simply easier- and more practical- to work with plastic and a good alloy hull/chassis (such as the Taigen or Tamiya types)?
Just a few thoughts for discussion.
Roy.

Re: MATO Tiger 1 Body.

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:29 am
by jarndice
Hi Roy, The reason I am thinking of a "Mato" Metal Body is simply because they make the only AFFGORDABLE Tiger 1 body with working Engine Covers,
I have fitted working Engine Covers to all my Panzer 4s and the loss of a secure locking system is a pain and the only solution I have found to date is Neo-Dymion Magnets which work well but I am very aware of the weak link in the system, (The pull on the self tapping screws)although using 10Kg pull magnets might be overkill :haha:
Some time ago I went through 3 Tiger 1 ABS Back panels, all of which I had expended time in detailing and painting,
The lugs that held the panel to the Taigen Metal Hull would fail So I thought a Metal Rear Panel might solve the problem, Dave @
http://www.forgebeartanks.com
had Mato Metal Rear Panels in stock so I ordered one,
Dave being the straight up guy that we all know him to be was prepared to lose £ 30 by warning me that it was not compatible with the Taigen Metal Hull :thumbup: ,
Needs must so I went ahead and bought it,
It certainly took work to fit because it was 3mm shorter than the ABS original but that was a simple fix using a strip of 3mm Plasticard as a fillit but the bigger problem was that the lugs on the Mato panel were way off and would not line up with the locating holes in the Taigen Hull,
I made up a a metal sandwich out of sections of "Heinz" Soup tins :lolno: and drilled new holes that did line up with the Mato panel,
I stripped off the Metal fittings from the Mato Panel all of which were simply screwed in, (Other Makers take note)and fitted the ABS fittings from the failed panels,
It was a job that once done was pretty easy, Its the working it all out for the first time that was the challenge,
As to the advantages of the ABS body, Yes I am in total agreement with you and I would probably remove a lot of the "Furniture" but quite simply I do not have the skill to cut out ABS engine covers from an existing Heng Long/Taigen Tiger 1 ABS Body and fit working replacements and the only (Expensive) alternative is "Ludwigs" and that Officer is my story and I am sticking with it :shifty.: