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Aerial tube on the engine deck on a JP
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:14 pm
by Lert
I've always liked this look:
So I'm thinking I'm going to do that with my own JagdPanther while repainting it.
Why was this done? How often was it done? And does anyone happen to have good pictures of the brackets used to mount the tube back there so I can probably scratch build them?
Re: Aerial tube on the engine deck on a JP
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:49 pm
by HERMAN BIX
From all accounts this was done on very late machines out of the factory and in others infield as a modification.
The late ones had all the tools mounted on the rear plate and engine deck rather than the hull sides.
The tube was relocated so as not to be knocked off.
To clarify the JP timeline, earlys had tools on sides and a one piece barrel and the 4 tube exhaust
What we can call mids have the 2 piece barrel and tools on the sides with either 4 tube exhausts or flame suppression exhausts
The lates has the tools on the rear and the 2 piece barrel with a rain guard over the gunners sight arpeture and hooded flame suppressor exhausts.
They are loose descriptors but can be an indicator of the age of a machine
Re: Aerial tube on the engine deck on a JP
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:56 pm
by Lert
HERMAN BIX wrote:The lates has the tools on the rear and the 2 piece barrel with a rain guard over the gunners sight arpeture and hooded flame suppressor exhausts.
Well, HL's JP is a late one with the hooded flammenvernichters, so that is a viable build. Do you happen to have pictures of where the tools are located on the back?
Thanks for your answer btw!
<Edit> I found this:

Re: Aerial tube on the engine deck on a JP
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:28 am
by HERMAN BIX
http://unotrentacinque.it/en/workbench- ... er-g2.html
One from my file of research !
bear in mind that these machines were in various states of layout & seemed not to follow consistent conformity according to what would be considered normal by standards of King Tiger or Tiger 1.
I have pics of them with a relocated tube, but all other bits in the normal places on the sides.
Some with tube exhausts, and a relocated tube, and tools on the sides.
Its hard to pick with any definite marker just what version it started as, apart from the barrel type.
We can assume there were early's , mids and lates, but there would have been combinations of all of these, at times on one vehicle !!
Re: Aerial tube on the engine deck on a JP
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:31 am
by Lert
HERMAN BIX wrote:We can assume there were early's , mids and lates, but there would have been combinations of all of these, at times on one vehicle !!
Ofcourse, ofcourse. That's the fun of modeling vehicles like this, there are so many options for unique vehicles, and who can tell us that what we're doing is wrong?

They'd better bring proof! Besides, I don't make X vehicle of Y company on Z date in location L, I like to make vehicles that are 'what if', but realistic.
Thanks for the replies!
Re: Aerial tube on the engine deck on a JP
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:21 am
by cashybai
If its any help, I'm doing my Jagd as a Normandy era sPzJgAbt 654 vehicle, likewise I'm mounting the tube at back, fabricating the clamps with brass strip. It's worth you getting the Oliver book on the Jagd, loads of illustrations in there to start with...

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