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German tanks types in same units

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:50 pm
by Smaily
Hello all,
straight to question:
>> I own one Pz. III, which I am currently upgrading and one Panther G (I believe both are HL ones as I got them as used).
I would like to ask history experts if there were any Pz. IIIs which were used in the same unit together with Pantrhers (preferably G, but I will live with any if necessary), so I can use some same camouflage markings to have them both from same unit.

Now, I know that Tigers were used with Pz. IIIs and I believe that Pz. IVs were used with Panthers too. But my combination is different.
I plan to order some stuff from rctank.de, so I would like to order masks in that package if I found such unit (and masks will be available).

And if I will get negative feedback about such German tank unit, I will have to explain my wife, why I need also Tiger (I or II) and also Pz. IV ;D ;D ;D

Re: German tanks types in same units

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 2:25 pm
by Dusty Steppes
As per Nafziger's German Order of Battle Panzer and Artillery...

116th Panzer Division
In July 1944 the organization of the armored portion of the division and it's panzer inventory were as follows:

1/24th Panzer Regiment
1 Panzer Staff Company
1 Battalion
1 Panzer Staff Company
4 Medium Panzer Companies (PzMk V)

2/16th Panzer Regiment
1 Battalion
1 Panzer Staff Company
4 Medium Panzer Companies (PzMk IV)

Total tanks available:
PzMk III (lg) 6
PzMk IV (lg) 73
PzMk V 79
Flakpz IV (37) 8

Re: German tanks types in same units

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 2:35 pm
by dgsselkirk
At this point mainly used a Command and Control tanks or resupply under fire. Stick a star antenna on your III and do it up as a command vehicle would be cool...

Re: German tanks types in same units

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:43 pm
by RobW
Smaily wrote:And if I will get negative feedback about such German tank unit, I will have to explain my wife, why I need also Tiger (I or II) and also Pz. IV ;D ;D ;D
It's a silly idea. They should all be of a similar type. :D @) Don't forget the assault gun antitank units for support.

Re: German tanks types in same units

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:09 am
by HERMAN BIX
And the necessary mobile artillery units - Wespe, Hummel etc etc !!!
Ohh you are going to have a great time :thumbup:

Re: German tanks types in same units

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:01 am
by RobW
Not to mention the heavy recovery gear...... Start decorating the dog house!

Re: German tanks types in same units

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:26 am
by Smaily
THX for replies. I think I will adopt idea about Pz. III to be a command tank, so I will just put one more antenna.

Re: German tanks types in same units

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:12 pm
by jarndice
Hi, Not just any old Aerial I hope, The Befehlswagen (Command) Panzer 111 in common with the command Panzer 4, command Panther, command Tigers 1 and 2 Tanks all had a very distinctive array,
Aber make one in Photo-Etch, It is not available from many dealers at the moment and is surprisingly expensive,
http://www.Tanktoko-apeldoorn.nl/en
in Holland have them in stock and are probably the cheapest, (Thanks to ROB59 :thumbup: ).

Re: German tanks types in same units

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:26 pm
by Smaily
I know it was not standard antenna. Should be that one which top ends 5-way. If I go to command vehicle, I will probabpy buy normal antenna and I will scratch build that 5-way end for it (styrene from plastic kits).

I still may just build something like nr. 133 from Pz.Abt.502 with yellow-green camouflage (should be from Kursk). It just wont be completely accurate, as I plan schürzen for turret and hull too.

Re: German tanks types in same units

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:10 pm
by Rob59
jarndice wrote:Hi, Not just any old Aerial I hope, The Befehlswagen (Command) Panzer 111 in common with the command Panzer 4, command Panther, command Tigers 1 and 2 Tanks all had a very distinctive array,
Aber make one in Photo-Etch, It is not available from many dealers at the moment and is surprisingly expensive,
http://www.Tanktoko-apeldoorn.nl/en
in Holland have them in stock and are probably the cheapest, (Thanks to ROB59 :thumbup: ).

Hi Jarndice.
Yes indeed, Tanktoko Apeldoorn is the cheapest supplier concerning Fug8 antennas.
Still waiting for the 2 I ordered, one for my Ostfront Tiger 1 Befehlswagen, and the other one for the Panther G, with turret nr.003