Were tank tools and spares the same colour as the tank?

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Re: Were tank tools and spares the same colour as the tank?

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Have a look at this. http://www.aboutww2militaria.com/german ... a-536.html

Don't think they would be painted for safety reasons. Looked this up as a mate gave me insulated tubes made of the same material. Its darker but never been exposed to daylight .
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ronnie42 wrote:Have a look at this. http://www.aboutww2militaria.com/german ... a-536.html

Don't think they would be painted for safety reasons. Looked this up as a mate gave me insulated tubes made of the same material. Its darker but never been exposed
to daylight .
Interesting website. Yes, you would think if they went to the trouble of camouflaging a set of wire cutters, identical to the ones attached to tanks, then other tools and equipment would merit the same treatment. Water bottles, binoculars, webbing, jerry cans and more certainly did undergo camo treatment; even this Africa Korps periscope wore a colour disguise:
Africa Korps trench periscope
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In the course of rummaging on the net, I did come across this useful article on British camouflage patterns and types throughout WW2..
http://www.wwpd.net/2015/09/hiding-in-p ... e-and.html
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Not sure about tanks, but WW2 USN camouflage instructions directed that all topside equipment, i.e. stretchers, fire extinguishers, tools, hoses, be painted or stained the camouflage color of the deck or bulkhead they were attached to.
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The wire cutters have no overspray or paint drips on the metal , its the natural colour of the insulated resin handles don't know about the black end caps . Looks like the resin is breaking down.
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ronnie42 wrote:The wire cutters have no overspray or paint drips on the metal , its the natural colour of the insulated resin handles don't know about the black end caps . Looks like the resin is breaking down.
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So, without high jacking this thread, what colour should I paint the spare tracks on the side of a panther or king tiger?
Would they be bare metal ? Perhaps black like a shovel blade or sledgehammer. Or would the crew have painted over them in whatever camouflage the tank was.
I haven’t seen too many colour pictures to give me a clear indication.
Your thoughts gentlemen.
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Re: Were tank tools and spares the same colour as the tank?

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Afrikakorps wrote:So, without high jacking this thread, what colour should I paint the spare tracks on the side of a panther or king tiger?
Would they be bare metal ? Perhaps black like a shovel blade or sledgehammer. Or would the crew have painted over them in whatever camouflage the tank was.
I haven’t seen too many colour pictures to give me a clear indication.
Your thoughts gentlemen.
Cheers Steve


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If the camo was painted in the field the track links will probably be the same color as the camo, but if it was painted in the factory the track links will probably just be dark grey or black color.
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Max-U52 wrote:
Afrikakorps wrote:So, without high jacking this thread, what colour should I paint the spare tracks on the side of a panther or king tiger?
Would they be bare metal ? Perhaps black like a shovel blade or sledgehammer. Or would the crew have painted over them in whatever camouflage the tank was.
I haven’t seen too many colour pictures to give me a clear indication.
Your thoughts gentlemen.
Cheers Steve


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If the camo was painted in the field the track links will probably be the same color as the camo, but if it was painted in the factory the track links will probably just be dark grey or black color.
I think that's what I was really getting at, Gary. :) I suspect a lot of hard pressed units would simply have sprayed everything- including spare tracks Olive drab (allies), or triple-tone (Germans) later in the war, or some form of sandy/ dark yellow during the to-ing and fro-ing melees of the desert campaigns. Tanks arriving on trains for the Kursk metal on metal mashup, would probably have sported factory fresh livery...but not for long 8O
But, overspraying spare tracks, while allowing significant hints of bare (dark grey) metal to peep through (weathering effects), would seem like one valid option for tank model painting. :think:
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Hmm..I wonder what sort of campaign emergency led to this subtle outcome :eh: :
Zer Pink Pants-sir
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43rdRecceReg wrote:Hmm..I wonder what sort of campaign emergency led to this subtle outcome :eh: :
Pink Panzer...jpg
Perhaps it is pink piñata camouflage ImageImage


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