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Flash LED voltage
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:56 pm
by silversurfer1947
I am wondering of any of the electronic wizards out there would happen to know the voltage emitted by an Elmod board for the flash LED. The reason for asking is that I have fitted two identical barrels from tank_modellbau, one to my Panzer III which has a Clark board and is still going strong. The other was fitted to my Puma with an Elmod board. It worked initially, but after a few firings packed up. I have just received a replacement barrel for the Puma and in the packaging was a warning to fit a suitable resistor or the LED would be damaged. I assume the fitted LED is 5v. All and any advice gratefully received.
Re: Flash LED voltage
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:57 pm
by tomhugill
I thought LEDs were 3v
Re: Flash LED voltage
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:01 pm
by silversurfer1947
I stand corrected. However, I still need to solve the original question.
Re: Flash LED voltage
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:27 pm
by MichaelC
I don't know about Elmod, but I have always used 3v LEDs for the Clark flash without a resistor and never had a problem. The only time I need a resistors for Clark is when there is more than one LEDs for the headlight so that it will balance the load, or if I decided to use one of the 5v switch port for LEDs to reduce the voltage.
It sounds like Elmod does need a resistor for the flash, and it probably lasted couple of firing because it was a quick burst. If it was headlight which stays on it would have burnt it out right away.
Re: Flash LED voltage
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:00 pm
by wibblywobbly
I use 5v high intensity led's on all my tanks, yellow or orange when I can get them.
Re: Flash LED voltage
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:27 pm
by silversurfer1947
wibblywobbly wrote:I use 5v high intensity led's on all my tanks, yellow or orange when I can get them.
The barrel comes with the led already fitted. I guess I need to attach a resistor to cope with the voltage.
Re: Flash LED voltage
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:34 pm
by wibblywobbly
It seems a bit odd that Elmod would make a board specifically for the Puma, but that the flash led is the incorrect voltage. I would be tempted to ask Thomas at Elmod to confirm whether a resistor was or was not needed.
Re: Flash LED voltage
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:46 pm
by silversurfer1947
The barrel and led were not part of the original kit, but my modification. However it would be useful to know what the flash voltage is.
Re: Flash LED voltage
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:54 pm
by wibblywobbly
If the original led was prefitted with an led, and it blew, then it would logical that the Elmod puts out 5v, and the the barrel had a 3v led in it. So, you either need a 5v flash led, or a resistor on a 3v one.

Re: Flash LED voltage
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:54 am
by Raminator
It may actually be sending the full battery voltage, Richard. I've been checking and measuring voltages over the Elmod Fusion Pro to figure out how to rewire my T-34, and it looks like a few things are counter-intuitively getting 7.4 V straight from the battery (a 2S LiPo). The muzzle flash signal flicks on and off too quickly for my multimeter to get a decent reading, but the headlight and MG on the 8-pin plug are certainly getting much more voltage than they ought to. Even though an LED should be alright to run slightly over-voltage for short periods, if you're hitting it with >8 V from a freshly-charged battery it wouldn't last long.