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Postby Eastern Front » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:27 pm

Hi guys,

Here is a link to pre-order the M1A2 Abrams at a substantial discount!!! BIG discount!

http://shop.aaftankmuseum.com/ProductDe ... 1-PREORDER

Everyone knows that Danville Tank museum is a great business, and they offer great discounts on RC tanks!

Cheers!!!
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Postby Ad Lav » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:28 pm

Doesn't help us over the pond - postage and customs will make it $1200 +
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Postby Eastern Front » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:30 pm

Ad Lav wrote:Doesn't help us over the pond - postage and customs will make it $1200 +


Yeah, I know,,,but maybe it might be a little cheaper in the long run,,,if you can save $100, its worth it :D

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Postby Ad Lav » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:32 pm

Awaiting Axels for his pricing :)
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Postby c.rainford73 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:25 pm

Yes this is on my list they have been my Tamiya tanks source.
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Postby Tread Flintstone » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:46 pm

Pardon my true ignorance... :eh:

Why would I order this kit when I can get a Heng Long RTR tank for $119 shipped and it shoots BB's?

Is the Tamiya truly that much better?

So far I have 3 HL tanks and am impressed.

I don't mean to offend anyone ...especially Tamiya fans....I am just clueless as to the differences in quality. ??? (I'm still learning..)
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Postby Ad Lav » Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:07 pm

Would suggest you buy one and find out ;)
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Postby Rad_Schuhart » Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:35 pm

Tread Flintstone wrote:Pardon my true ignorance... :eh:

Why would I order this kit when I can get a Heng Long RTR tank for $119 shipped and it shoots BB's?

Is the Tamiya truly that much better?

So far I have 3 HL tanks and am impressed.

I don't mean to offend anyone ...especially Tamiya fans....I am just clueless as to the differences in quality. ??? (I'm still learning..)


For me the best part of the tamiya tanks is that you need to build them. I really love doing it, but they usually lack a lot of very basic detail (like opening hatches) that I add myself. Also some kits needs some upgrades too. But yep, basically, you need to join all the bits together.

Tamiya kits used to come with great electronics (a decade ago) but now in my opinion are absolutelly outdated and the kits are way way overpriced.

For the tamiya fans I must say I have two tamiya tanks and I know what I am talking about, lol.
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Postby c.rainford73 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 11:00 pm

Yes Rad my Tamiya panther is in a whole other stratosphere
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Postby Eastern Front » Sun Aug 06, 2017 12:53 am

Rad_Schuhart wrote:
Tread Flintstone wrote:Pardon my true ignorance... :eh:

Why would I order this kit when I can get a Heng Long RTR tank for $119 shipped and it shoots BB's?

Is the Tamiya truly that much better?

So far I have 3 HL tanks and am impressed.

I don't mean to offend anyone ...especially Tamiya fans....I am just clueless as to the differences in quality. ??? (I'm still learning..)


For me the best part of the tamiya tanks is that you need to build them. I really love doing it, but they usually lack a lot of very basic detail (like opening hatches) that I add myself. Also some kits needs some upgrades too. But yep, basically, you need to join all the bits together.

Tamiya kits used to come with great electronics (a decade ago) but now in my opinion are absolutelly outdated and the kits are way way overpriced.

For the tamiya fans I must say I have two tamiya tanks and I know what I am talking about, lol.


Ok, Pardon my ignorance, but what Tamiya model are you talking about? All my Tamiya"s have hatches that are not "molded" into the body, can be made to open and close quite easily.. Tamiya tanks have great detail, much more detail out of the gate than the Henglongs etc etc. I know what I am talking about since I personally own over 15 assembled last count, not counting the ones waiting in the cue....
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Postby Tread Flintstone » Sun Aug 06, 2017 4:34 am

So does Tamiya carry different levels of kits as far as features then?

So the kits don't include the motors?
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Postby Rad_Schuhart » Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:30 am

Eastern Front wrote:
Rad_Schuhart wrote:
Tread Flintstone wrote:Pardon my true ignorance... :eh:

Why would I order this kit when I can get a Heng Long RTR tank for $119 shipped and it shoots BB's?

Is the Tamiya truly that much better?

So far I have 3 HL tanks and am impressed.

I don't mean to offend anyone ...especially Tamiya fans....I am just clueless as to the differences in quality. ??? (I'm still learning..)


For me the best part of the tamiya tanks is that you need to build them. I really love doing it, but they usually lack a lot of very basic detail (like opening hatches) that I add myself. Also some kits needs some upgrades too. But yep, basically, you need to join all the bits together.

Tamiya kits used to come with great electronics (a decade ago) but now in my opinion are absolutelly outdated and the kits are way way overpriced.

For the tamiya fans I must say I have two tamiya tanks and I know what I am talking about, lol.


Ok, Pardon my ignorance, but what Tamiya model are you talking about? All my Tamiya"s have hatches that are not "molded" into the body, can be made to open and close quite easily.. Tamiya tanks have great detail, much more detail out of the gate than the Henglongs etc etc. I know what I am talking about since I personally own over 15 assembled last count, not counting the ones waiting in the cue....



Hi mate. I dont want to star another looooooooong Tamiya VS all battle... I have a Sherman and a King Tiger.

In the Sherman: The driver, machine gunner and motor hatches are moulded shut, no way to oppen them without surgery. The tank commander hatch is suposed to be glued in open or in closed position (no hinge there, so another surgery) the only hatch that opens and closes is the gun loader one.

In my king tiger, even worst. Driver and loader are closed, gun loader is suposed to be glued shut or start making surgery to intall hinges, tank commander hatch again suposed to be opened or closed due to, again, it comes with nothing to put movement on it so you need to think how to mod it (Usually drill a couple of holes and installing a bolt with a spring and a nut). Oh, I also forgot the massive rear turret hatch.,, Yep, that one is closed too.

About the detail, no, at least my kits and most of the ones I have seen have next to nothing detail. My kits are using the same molds since 1975, so as you can imagine there is a lot of space for improving. I've seen tons of 1:35 scale kits with way way more detail on them.

About the problems like faulting rotating units, broken elevation arms, horrible designed tracks (king tiger, the sherman tracks are fine), lack of functions like no barrel recoils or not even lights we can talk another day.

Some people (not talking about you, Eastern) are blind just because it says "tamiya" or because they paid a lot of dought for a model, but the things are like this... At least with the 2ww kits, It seems the leopard 2 its a great tank, but I have not even seen one it in real life.


Also please note that I am not saying Heng Long is better, just saying what I have seen in the tamiya tanks.
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Postby tomhugill » Sun Aug 06, 2017 8:35 am

As rad has said he owns the two tamiya tanks with the oldest tooling, as such the poorest detail. However the more recent ones are much better. The Pershing has all opening hatches, and the.details are great. So it's not as cut and dried as it seems. Also I think you're in the UK? That does mean you can find very cheap tamiya tanks on eBay some times less than Heng long prices. (If I'm mistaken I apologise!)

Electronics wise the older tamiya sounds are vastly superior to Heng long but aren't a patch on say an elmod or Clark tk60 sounds. However! For me.they still have the best driving characteristics , smoothest low speed and they're simple to use and aside from a short calibration don't need setting up. They're also the most reliable for battling iny experience (which is why a lot of the hardcore battlers in the USA still like them).

Tamiyas also cover models which Heng long don't, the newer ones have photo etch details included or similar level.of.detail, also.the engineerings far better, with metal where needed like suspension arms, lower hulls sprockets, idlers, etc they tend to run very well out the box (although the king tiger is an exception to this and need some mods).

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Postby HvyCgn9 » Mon Aug 07, 2017 1:10 pm

I will be interested to see some good pics when someone gets one of these!! 8) 8)

I'd like one but I can't buy squat till a huge pile of bills gets paid off..... :-< :-<

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Postby Jimmy Z » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:00 am

So the $100 is just a deposit to secure the purchase. The site says that when they are in you will be sent a link to complete the order. Am i missing something? I don't see where the overall cost of the kit is listed.

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Postby jarndice » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:28 am

Jimmy, We have a way of doing things on the Forum,
First you go to the "Introduce yourself" Page and tell us a bit about you, what country, what tanks (If Any), that kind of thing and then you are free to enter the fray,
But please first things first.,
First the Yorkshire pudding and Then the Ice cream :haha:
Shaun.

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Postby Jimmy Z » Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:37 am

Will do. Please accept my apologies.

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Postby Spookworks » Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:36 am

Here´s a thought, the perfect tank recipe.
Tamiya´s quality and ingenuity.
Mato/ Taigen´s All metal concept.
Heng Long Low price settings.
Equals in my mind the perfect RC tank!

Here´s another thought, either way someone thinks about a certain tank manufactor concepts, there will be arguments about ability, agilty, quality and sustainbility in the customers view of point. So, in short terms, if You have tried it then speak Your mind. If not buy one and try.

I have bought, built and tried a couple of tanks in my days and so far is my conclusion: If You prefere a certain brand of tanks then stick to it and be happy with Your collection. Easy Peasy!

If You want to go the hybrid way (mix the brands) then You will probably see it as a more expensive way when You have fulfilled Your goals/visions/dreams when the project is finalised.

In conclusion; It all depence on what You want...

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