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Face mask, Respirator

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:05 am
by Jake79
Hi Chaps

Up until now Ive only been using the throw away masks, there not really doing the job, I'm sure I'm still breathing in things I shouldn't be. Any recommendations on a decent one.




Cheers


Jake

Re: Face mask, Respirator

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:03 am
by Estnische
Those disposable mask won't work with solvent vapours, so getting a respirator is the way to go.

I use a Sundstrom SR100 at work, but you need the correct filter for the hazards. I assume you are worried about paints, so you will probably need an organic vapour cartridge. Check with the sales dude or download the Safety Data Sheet from the chemical manufacturer.

Re: Face mask, Respirator

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:43 am
by Andy Mc
Hi Jake

Same as Estnische said - the disposables are no good - If it says P3 on your mask that is the highest level of protection against dust, mist and fumes (any airborne particles)
If it's vapours you need protection against then a half mask with a gas/vapour filter is required, an ABEC1 or ABEC2 filter will provide protection against most things you come across, and as mentioned the Sundstrom SR100 is a very good mask overall, Arco in the UK sell them, also dependant on the shape/size of your face, you will need to get the correct size. M/L is the most common size.
Other good masks also made by 3M, Scott Safety and Draeger.

If you stuck, send me a pm and I can try arrange something for you.

cheers
Andy

Re: Face mask, Respirator

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:04 pm
by Jake79
hey guy's, yes its for spraying mostly, I've been using the disposables for near on three years, paints and glues etc.

I'll check out the few you mentioned. I've seen a 3M mask which you have to replace after a month that was quite cheap.

Then there's the filter masks and buying the right filters. I liked the 3M mask as it was a half mask looked more comfortable but if it only lasts a month, may not be worth it.

Just wondered what other chaps were using so I choose right mask/filters for right job.


thanks jake

Re: Face mask, Respirator

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:39 pm
by Jake79

Re: Face mask, Respirator

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:38 pm
by 43rdRecceReg
Having had a recent cranial fireworks display from inhaling EMA Plastic Weld through a disposable mask, I opted for one of these (below) with replaceable cartridges.They're designed to deal with solvent fumes; and they do cope very well. More to the point, I wear specs- in keeping with my getting elderly status- and I found that cheapo masks steam them up. That way I ended up putting glue anywhere but where it's needed. :crazy: This mask has no such misting effect...another plus point :thumbup: Mine came through Amazon, but here's an example at Screwfix:
http://www.screwfix.com/p/jsp-force-8-m ... s-p3/1863f

Re: Face mask, Respirator

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:25 pm
by Jake79
Wish you'd been around earlier :problem: when the filters run out on this one, I'll order yours from Amazon. cheers :thumbup:

Re: Face mask, Respirator

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:43 pm
by Jake79
43rd Iv'e just been told you need carbon fibre filters for paint. I don't know if yours have those it doesn't say in the link. Yours could just be for dust. What you might have to do with the set you bought is change the filters for different tasks.

The 3M's I ordered state they are used in the paint industry so I should be safe..might be worth checking your specs.

Re: Face mask, Respirator

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:35 pm
by 43rdRecceReg
Jake79 wrote:43rd Iv'e just been told you need carbon fibre filters for paint. I don't know if yours have those it doesn't say in the link. Yours could just be for dust. What you might have to do with the set you bought is change the filters for different tasks.

The 3M's I ordered state they are used in the paint industry so I should be safe..might be worth checking your specs.
There's a range of filters to go with the mask. The one I chose absorbs gases contains solvents, paint spray and more (Organic vapour cartridges). Here are a few of the details that I cut and pasted from Amazon:
...Force 8 A1 Organic Vapour Cartridges - Pack of 2
Twin filter cartridges for the Force 10 full face mask and the Force 8 half respiratory protection face mask
Offers APF of 10x WEL against fine dusts, fibres, fumes and liquid aerosols when attached to a Force 8 &with Force 10, an APF of 20x WEL
Cost effective filters for protection against particulates for minimum visual impairment.
Easy to attach to the respirator with a secure fit when applied...

Thus aerosols and acrylics should be well within its range. The main thing is that you can not only replace the cartridges, but you can also choose job specific ones for it. :thumbup:
I picked this particular cartridge because it's proof against Methylene Chloride (in Plastic Weld) and other potentially nasty solvents :crazy: . Particulates from paints should be no problem for it. I did a fair amount of research into this Jake and, for the price, this was the best (and best reviewed) mask I could find at the price.

Re: Face mask, Respirator

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:05 am
by Jake79
Sorry to go on, heres what I copied and pasted from amazon for your mask..

Premium Half Mask Offering Comfort and Protection
• Upgraded "Press to Check" Filters
• Durable, thermoplastic rubber
• Low Profile Filters, Push and Quarter Turn Fitting
• P3 High Effciency Dust-Only Filtration

So the mask initially comes with filter especially for dust not paint or solvents at £24.99
you would then have to buy the two extra cartridges for £18.99 to make it usefull for spraying etc..this now makes it quite an expensive mask.
Would it not be a better idea to buy a mask that already comes with the right filters in the first place ?